Why is it asked what's a good amp for X speaker?

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warnerwh

Why is it asked what's a good amp for X speaker?
« on: 17 Sep 2003, 12:44 am »
I must be missing something here but wouldn't room acoustics and cables be a key element here making any recommendation little more than useless? This is assuming the amps in question all have enough power and current capability needed to drive said speaker.

aaird

Why is it asked what's a good amp for X speaker?
« Reply #1 on: 17 Sep 2003, 12:56 am »
One Word:   Synergy

Some combinations of amp/speaker have a synergy that other technically proficient combinations just don't have.   I recently had one of these myself, with my Lectron swiss made Tube amp and my Swans Allures speakers.  I sold them to move on, but everyone who heard them thought I was crazy.  

Andrew

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Why is it asked what's a good amp for X speaker?
« Reply #2 on: 17 Sep 2003, 03:58 am »
Hello warnerwh,
I think you somewhat answered your own question. I don't think that most people understand what power/current capability is required for most high-end speakers. Two speakers with the same ohm/power rating on paper may act totally different in the real world.

Due to great marketing by most of the larger mass market and car audio amp manufactureres, a very large majority of folks (including some audiophiles) still associate power/watts with how well the amp will sound and "control" a speaker. Most peolpe just don't realize that power supply, architecture, and output configuration play a much larger role than advertised watts. All too many times I have seen someone post a review saying something like "I tried brand X and brand Y 200W amps with speaker Z and thought brand X sounded more open, musical, etc." and then have someone come back and say "Your a tin-eared idiot. I tried those two amps with speaker V and you are totally wrong. Brand Y amp is better". When I look at the specs I find that brand X has a 2kVA power supply, brand Y has a .3kVA power supply, speaker Z is a planar that is 82 dB efficient and goes down to 2 ohms and speaker V is a 106 dB efficient horn that never goes below 8 ohms.  :shake:  

The synergy thing as described by aaird is also extremely important. The old Acurus amps were notorious for being bright sounding. Put them on a speaker with a bright aluminum dome tweater and you felt like someone was drilling a hole in your head. However, they did a great job in bringing dull sounding speaker to life.

I agree with your statement that the room and cables/interconnects can have a huge difference on the sound. However, it would be extremely difficult to use a dull sounding interconnect to tame a bright amp mated to a bright speaker without severely affecting the music in a bad way.

Having at least a somewhat good idea that a speaker/amp combo can be made to sound good in someone elses environment at least helps most people get one step closer to a good system (i.e., if I know that something sounds great at your house and the exact same system sounds poor at my house I now have a much small list of possible things to fix: power, room treatment, or speaker positioning) If a person doesn't know that an amp/speaker combo sounds good in at least one other environment, then doubt and frustration will set in very quickly if the system initially sounds bad.

Just a few random thought.

Julian
www.sedonaskysound.com