Radio Shack Sound level Meter

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Spirit

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Radio Shack Sound level Meter
« on: 14 Nov 2007, 04:22 am »
OK - I am not new to the hobby but I have never actually used a sound level meter to test my system.  Since I know that this is a valuable tool to have, maybe the info that I am about to ask for will help may new and veteran ACers.
I have a meter that I have never used.  I don't really understand the booklet instructions.  I also have a few test tone CDs.
Can someone tell me what it is I am supposed to do and why I am doing this!
The meter that I have has the following:
1: a VU meter (analog) with a range from -10 to +6 db
2: a dial titled "Range" and it is presently pointing to the "Off" position
3: "Weighting" switch - either A or C
4: "Response" switch - either Slow or Fast
I would appreciate an easy to follow direction.  I will post my findings as directed, and then perhaps some of you can determine what it is I discover and what to do.
Thanks

rabpaul

Re: Radio Shack Sound level Meter
« Reply #1 on: 14 Nov 2007, 05:10 am »
http://www.rivesaudio.com/software/softframes.html
Look at Downloads, Instructions for use.
Hows and whys are also explained.

OTGA

Re: Radio Shack Sound level Meter
« Reply #2 on: 21 Nov 2007, 07:45 pm »
Hi Spirit,

The Radio Shack SPL meter is a very handy tool for both two channel and multi channel/home theatre systems.

The SPL meter became popular with the advent of home theatre as it provides a fairly accurate means to achieve balanced SPL's on all those speakers and subs when used with the built in test tones of the pre/pro/AVR's.

 It also can serve as a rudimentary spectrum analyzer when used in conjunction with a test CD containing test tones running the gamut of the frequency range 20hz to 20khz+.  The Stereophile test discs are fine for this purpose.  Seamless calibrating of the x-over and levels on a sub in a two channel/sub set up can  also be achieved with the 20hz-100hz test tones.

Using the SPL meter is fairly straightforward.  Set the "weighting" to "C" and response to "slow".  At the listening position, using a tripod or holding the meter in your hand pointing at the mid point between your speakers, at ear level, slightly angled towards wall/ceiling juncture set the system to your normal listening level.  You need to now set the "range" on the meter so that the needle hovers back and forth between the 0db level.  Usually this means the range is set at 70 or 80 db.

As the test CD plays each frequency tone, assess and document the db level for each test tone.  This is labourious as you will need to repeat tracks and adjust the meter's range up or down depending on the in-room response.  Once completed you now have an in-room frequency response for your system detailing all the peaks and nulls for the frequencies represented on the test disc.  You may be surprised at what frequencies your system is emphasizing and de-emphasizing!

Another use for the SPL meter is determining L/R balance and energy propagation into the room.  Using the pink noise tracks on the test CD, from the listening position, point the meter directly at each speaker and see if you are achieving a balanced presentation.  Now sweep the meter around the room and see if there are wide variances in levels.

The key to a spectacular sounding system is balanced energy propagation into the room.

All this is for naught if there is not a practical solution, as in no added EQ or room treatments, to resolving peaks, nulls and propagation issues.

Acoustical analysis of the room is the answer. I can determine the exact location for the L/R speakers where the room's impact on the sound system is minimized and the room is energized evenly, the "zone of neutrality"  Smoother bass response, realistic sibilants, increased inner detail and greater dynamics are the end result.

If you have the opportunity, measure and document your system's current in-room response and I will drop by and acoustically analyse your room.  We will relocate your speakers accordingly and you will hear the results immediately.

Of course, if you have the speakers close to the correct location the improvements will be noticeable just not as dramatic!

Hope this was helpful.

Best Regards
Neil

Wayner

Re: Radio Shack Sound level Meter
« Reply #3 on: 21 Nov 2007, 08:08 pm »
Sound pressure meters became popular back in the seventies to help balance graphic equilizers, long before 5.1 was even a dream.

Wayner

martyo

Re: Radio Shack Sound level Meter
« Reply #4 on: 21 Nov 2007, 08:39 pm »
Spirit,

There is another thread around here somewhere about sound levels and using the radio shack meter and I asked about using it for checking frequency response and I was told NO. There were even links to sites where they have charted all the corrections to make to the meter readings if you were to use it for that, particularily for subs.  Use only for SPL.

OTGA

Re: Radio Shack Sound level Meter
« Reply #5 on: 22 Nov 2007, 12:20 am »
Hi Spirit,

You had asked for assistance in using the Radio Shack SPL meter.  I believe stating that it can be used as a "rudimentary spectrum anaylzer" provides the necessary caveat as to it's ultimate accuracy.  Results are a guideline ONLY not to be taken verbatim.  There are far more accurate and expensive spectrum analyzers out there but that was not what you were asking about.

As far as the Radio Shack SPL meter appearing in the layman's hands that did not take place until the home theatre revolution.  Obviously the device has been available for over 30 years but started commonly being suggested as an invaluable SPL tool by the AV press in the early 90's for the home theatre enthusiast.

For under $100 one can only expect so much from the Radio Shack SPL meter but my original post hopefully answers the primary question you were asking... how do you use the darn thing and how do you interpret the results!

Best Regards
Neil

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Re: Radio Shack Sound level Meter
« Reply #6 on: 22 Nov 2007, 11:52 am »
The big advantages to be gained with the RS spl meter is to learn just how loud you really listen.  First timers are shocked to find out their listening about 15 dB lower than they would have guessed.   :scratch:

Adding test tones, like the Stereophile CDs, allows you to find out your high frequency range of hearing and just how deep your room/speakers go.  Again most are shocked to find out how much of a "bass whimp" they are.   :oops:

As OTGA stated, this is very rudimentary stuff so don't over analyze what you find.  It just gets you into the right ballpark.  OTOH individual taste along with a balance between analytical studio work and home enjoyment leaves lots of room for differences of opinion of what the ideal solution would be.

Rant: most audiophiles have overspent on equipment versus the room/setup they're using.

martyo

Re: Radio Shack Sound level Meter
« Reply #7 on: 22 Nov 2007, 01:50 pm »
I found the other thread if you would like more reading on the RS meter:http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=45090.0