Cocobolo SB/PS/Burson Recase (long/pics)

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mgalusha

Cocobolo SB/PS/Burson Recase (long/pics)
« on: 5 Nov 2007, 01:53 am »
I finally made the time to put my SB2, PS and Burson buffer into a single chassis. I reused an old Carver power amp chassis, the same one I had built the PS into the first time. I'm reasonably happy with the outcome but since the chassis was originally meant for an amp there are a few extra holes and the amp chassis is about 10 years old, so there are some scratches and other wear marks but overall not horrible.

The original front panel was plastic sitting inside of anodized aluminum. This made it look like it had a beefy, audiophile style panel but of course it was not. Brad Judy gave me some veneer and some 1/4" thick cocobolo when I saw him at RMAF. What can I say but thanks! Brad, I hope you like what I did with the cocobolo. :)

Since the aluminum of the front panel was just a frame, I cut a piece of cocobolo that would just fit in the frame width wise and the rabbeted the ends with a dado head so the cocobolo was flush with the aluminum frame. I made a template from 1/4" ply and used a router with guide bushings to make the cutout for the display. I reused the original display window from the SB2 though I did make the recess for it as deep as I dared. It sits about 1/16" from the front of the panel. I noticed today after taking the photos that the middle of the window is bowed in. I only put glue on the four corners. I'll have to take it apart and add a little to the middle to make it look right. That's not so bad as I can put on a couple more coats of Tung oil while it's apart. :) As can been seen in the photo, there is a small gap on the left side between the wood and the aluminum frame. This was part of the frame and I decided to just leave it as it's not very visible unless you are at eye level and the piece of cocobolo I had was barely wide enough to fill the opening.

As for the electrics. The SB PS is pretty much like it was before with the addition of a pre-regulator floating 2.5V above the output. I tried adding a choke between the diodes and the first PS cap but reusing an old JM Labs speaker inductor was not a good choice. It's still mounted on the board but is not part of the circuit. The Burson modules are powered by the same PS that comes with them. The only changes are the output caps have been swapped for Black Gake K series and I changed the idle current a bit. I also moved the transistors from horizontal to vertical so I could use a substantial heat sink. It runs at about 100* F. The heat sink is for a Pentim III processor, harvested from an old IBM server.  :roll:

On the output modules I swapped the electrolytics for Black Gates and bypassed them with 1uF stacked film caps. The SB board is mounted to a piece of Baltic Birch plywood acting as a sub chassis. Dunno if this is good or bad but it solved the problem of where to mount it as the rails in the center of the chassis had to be dealt with. Some folks espouse the benefits of mounting the circuitry to wood, so perhaps this has some small benefit.

As part of the payment for building one of these for Jerry he supplied me with a pair of Obbligato caps. Supposed to be quite good and since I had them, I figured why not. These are 4.7uF bypassed with .01uF VenHaus V-Caps. So far this seems to be a very good combination.

I did as Pat from Analog Research Technology suggested with the digital output and removed the inductor and used some RG-179 to a BNC jack on the rear of the chassis. I may not use this but it's certainly better than the factory setup but not quite in the range of using a transformer. The cable is terminated as Pat and JustinCase suggested in the SB SPDIF modification thread, full circle tinned shield with the smallest possible amount of the core exposed, about 1mm.

As for how it sounds, much like other SB 2's with a Burson but IMO even more dynamic and transparent. I suspect the improvement comes from having the modules wired directly without interconnects. Now it needs some time for all those BG caps to fully form and stop mucking about with the sound. It can be superb for a while and then aggressive and strident a bit later. I don't care for the thought of break in but sadly I have observed it so I will be patient. :)

All in all, not too bad for a collection of spare and recycled parts. I'd like a few things to be better but the important part is how it sounds and from early indications it will be very very good.

Mike








Double Ugly

Re: Cocobolo SB/PS/Burson Recase (long/pics)
« Reply #1 on: 5 Nov 2007, 01:58 am »
Beautiful job, my friend!  :thumb:

Not that I expected anything less... :wink:

JoshK

Re: Cocobolo SB/PS/Burson Recase (long/pics)
« Reply #2 on: 5 Nov 2007, 02:00 am »
Very nice as usual!  :thumb:

jules

Re: Cocobolo SB/PS/Burson Recase (long/pics)
« Reply #3 on: 5 Nov 2007, 02:07 am »
Great work Mike ... clean layout and a really useful combination in the one box

jules

brj

Re: Cocobolo SB/PS/Burson Recase (long/pics)
« Reply #4 on: 5 Nov 2007, 04:06 am »
Very nice, Mike!

Are you taking orders? :wink:   :thumb:

PeteG

Re: Cocobolo SB/PS/Burson Recase (long/pics)
« Reply #5 on: 5 Nov 2007, 04:10 am »
Mike,
Another awesome job!  :thumb:

lonewolfny42

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Re: Cocobolo SB/PS/Burson Recase (long/pics)
« Reply #6 on: 5 Nov 2007, 07:29 am »
Nice Mike..... :beer:

Scott F.

Re: Cocobolo SB/PS/Burson Recase (long/pics)
« Reply #7 on: 5 Nov 2007, 09:22 am »
Nice job Mike  :green:

BRN

Re: Cocobolo SB/PS/Burson Recase (long/pics)
« Reply #8 on: 5 Nov 2007, 11:42 am »
Mike great job.

How do you control the volume? Is it via the SB volume control or a pre?

Thanks,
Brad

MaxCast

Re: Cocobolo SB/PS/Burson Recase (long/pics)
« Reply #9 on: 5 Nov 2007, 12:02 pm »
Very cool.  I wish you were my neighbor.  :D

mgalusha

Re: Cocobolo SB/PS/Burson Recase (long/pics)
« Reply #10 on: 5 Nov 2007, 02:37 pm »
Wow, I didn't expect any responses. Thanks guys.  :oops:

mgalusha

Re: Cocobolo SB/PS/Burson Recase (long/pics)
« Reply #11 on: 5 Nov 2007, 02:38 pm »
Are you taking orders? :wink:   :thumb:

I'm not really in the business but I have been known to build things for folks from time to time. You're welcome to use the shop if you like Brian. Not the greatest but it's not too bad either.

mike

mgalusha

Re: Cocobolo SB/PS/Burson Recase (long/pics)
« Reply #12 on: 5 Nov 2007, 02:41 pm »
How do you control the volume? Is it via the SB volume control or a pre?

Brad,

I'm using the SB right now. I'm in the process of moving my system back to fully active and once that occurs I'll be using the volume control of the XO for level. If I was staying with passive crossovers I'd want an analog volume control and in fact have a 100 step remote attenuator but I just couldn't fit it all in to the box. I am hoping the new DCX output stage will arrive soon but this will do for the mean time.

mike

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Re: Cocobolo SB/PS/Burson Recase (long/pics)
« Reply #13 on: 5 Nov 2007, 03:37 pm »
Very clean look. Nice :thumb:

BRN

Re: Cocobolo SB/PS/Burson Recase (long/pics)
« Reply #14 on: 5 Nov 2007, 04:02 pm »
Mike,

What is the 100 step remote attenuator you have. I have been looking for a remote attenuator and I have not been able to fine much on the web.

Thanks,
Brad

BradJudy

Re: Cocobolo SB/PS/Burson Recase (long/pics)
« Reply #15 on: 5 Nov 2007, 04:45 pm »
That looks very nice Mike.  I'm glad you found a good use for the panel - I'm sure it's glad to have been liberated from my garage.  :)

That's a nice combo box too.

mgalusha

Re: Cocobolo SB/PS/Burson Recase (long/pics)
« Reply #16 on: 5 Nov 2007, 08:37 pm »
What is the 100 step remote attenuator you have. I have been looking for a remote attenuator and I have not been able to fine much on the web.

Brad,

It's one of these: http://cgi.ebay.com/Hi-End-Volume-Control-DIY-Kit-LED-Remote-Control-V-03_W0QQitemZ250160470960QQihZ015QQcategoryZ14980QQcmdZViewItem

Also: http://eshop.diyclub.biz/product_info.php?cPath=85_186&products_id=112

I bought mine from the second link listed a couple of years ago and had no problems but of course that was some time ago. It's not bad but I built one of these: http://www.vaneijndhoven.net/jos/switchr/design.html and thought it was nicer than the Chinese model. Unfortunately he appears to be out of them at the moment.

Mike

BradJudy

Re: Cocobolo SB/PS/Burson Recase (long/pics)
« Reply #17 on: 5 Nov 2007, 09:13 pm »
Welborne labs has a 60 step one too - http://www.welbornelabs.com/remote.htm

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Re: Cocobolo SB/PS/Burson Recase (long/pics)
« Reply #18 on: 5 Nov 2007, 10:22 pm »
Mike,

DCX output stage as in Behringer DCX?  I'd be interested in knowing what you have in mind for that unit.

Russ

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Re: Cocobolo SB/PS/Burson Recase (long/pics)
« Reply #19 on: 5 Nov 2007, 11:02 pm »
very nice work!