Tuner Talk

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gjs_cds

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Tuner Talk
« on: 6 Sep 2007, 06:29 pm »
Does anyone know if Frank can be talked into servicing Dyanco Tuners at this point?  All this tuna-talk has gotten me tuna-curious.  And given that they're readily available on Ebay for pretty darn reasonable prices--it's making me think a little...

martyo

Re: Tuner Talk
« Reply #1 on: 6 Sep 2007, 06:48 pm »
Give him a call, he's the guy that answers the phone. 651-330-9871

mark funk

Re: Tuner Talk
« Reply #2 on: 6 Sep 2007, 09:33 pm »
I do not know if Frank works on stock Dynaco stuff any more but if it was an FM-3 that would be a walk in and walk out, the FM-3 will not stay aligned vary well after a UPS trip! My FM-3 sounds really good out here west of Chicago but if Frank still tunes them up I might make the trip for that and take Martyo and get our 550s re-biased for some different tubes. Let us know what Frank said if you call!:smoke:

Wayner

Re: Tuner Talk
« Reply #3 on: 6 Sep 2007, 09:35 pm »
Don't know if he can either. Parts are getting scarse and some were OEM to Dynaco. If those fail, it's toast.

W

doug s.

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Re: Tuner Talk
« Reply #4 on: 7 Sep 2007, 05:56 am »
i don't know if frank still works on these, but there's no problem getting most anything you need to refurb or upgrade yours.  here's one guy that does nice work & has stuff f/s:

http://home.comcast.net/~netminer/FM-3A.Html

he even fabs new boards; here's one he did, w/his new/upgrade parts:


new faceplates (awailable in bronze/black/gold:


here's another one on ebay that looks to be fairly priced, considering the refurb & mods that have been performed:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&Item=150157679654
i wouldn't expect to get good performance out of a cheaper used "as-is" fm3 w/o preparing to inwest some time &/or money into it...

doug s.

martyo

Re: Tuner Talk
« Reply #5 on: 7 Sep 2007, 08:50 am »
That's a really nice looking faceplate.

gjs_cds

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Re: Tuner Talk
« Reply #6 on: 7 Sep 2007, 05:07 pm »
Great info guys...  The refurbed (black face plate) units look terrific. 

Thanks!


Brett Buck

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Re: Tuner Talk
« Reply #7 on: 7 Sep 2007, 06:36 pm »
i wouldn't expect to get good performance out of a cheaper used "as-is" fm3 w/o preparing to inwest some time &/or money into it...

  If nothing is actually broken (like the unobtanium tuning cap or the power transformer) it should be a simple matter of replacing a few cheap tubes and doing the original alignment sequence *to the letter*. Essentially all parts aside from those are available including the eye tube as long as you don't mind paying for it. Frank was also correct, as usual, about which parts tend to go over the hill. The most important mod are the undersized resistors in the RF section - with the stock part these got so hot that replacing them noticably lowers the overall operating temperature of the of the entire unit and particularly the faceplate.
 
  The Frank FM-3 modifications are simple, cheap,  and well worth it, particularly the output coupling caps. The only problem I have ever had with an FM-3 was with the small "trimmer" caps on the tuning cap. Very fussy and very prone to becoming bent or flattened out and therefore unadjustable. When that happens you can get some very odd effects, like a sort of "mirror image" tuning where you can work you way up the dial and then all of a sudden notice that turning it more actually picks up stations at *lower* frequencies again. I just re-bent them and was able to restore the performance and adjustability.

   Once you get it right the performance of the tuner part is about as good as anything else, including the selectivity (tested in the very difficult, crowded and RF-noisy Bay Area). And the sound quality is better than almost anything else.

    I haven't tried any of the trick replacement parts from FM-3Zone, but the "selectivity filter" is intriguing.

    The biggest problems I have had with "eBay" units is poor original construction and unbelievably filthy and smelly internals - not anything much broken. I usually take more time cleaning them out inside than I do aligning it. That's an appeal of the replacement circuit boards - it comes out with good solder joints and clean inside.

    Brett