Acer PH110 - thoughts?

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JohnR

Acer PH110 - thoughts?
« on: 8 Jul 2007, 06:34 am »
My local officeworks has an Acer PH110 for $699. (About $600 US.) Apparently original retail price was something like $1800. (Everything costs more here...)

Seems like a squeal of a deal! Native resolution is 854x480, which to be honest is all I feel I need at this point. I can spend up on a 1080p projector in 2-3 years.

Hm, so, just wanted to put it out there for comments before I went off and bought it. (Or not.)

JohnR

Re: Acer PH110 - thoughts?
« Reply #1 on: 8 Jul 2007, 06:48 am »
Here are the specs:

– Resolution: Native 480p (854x 480), Maximum SXGA (1,280 x 1,024)
– Video Compatibility: NTSC (3.58/4.43), PAL (B/D/G/H/I/M/N), SECAM (B/D/G/K/K1/L), HDTV (720p, 1080i), EDTV (480p, 576p), SDTV (480i, 576i)
– Aspect Ratio: 16:9 (Native), 4:3 compatible
– Contrast Ratio (Typical): 2000:1
– Throw Ratio: 54"@2m
– Brightness (Typical): 1,000 ANSI Lumens (standard), 800 ANSI Lumens (ECO)
– Projection Distance: 3.94’ (1.2m) ~ 39.4' (12m)
– Horizontal Scan Rate: 31 ~ 79 kHz
– Vertical Refresh Scan Rate: 50 ~ 85 Hz
– Noise Level (Typical): 30 dBA (standard mode), 28 dBA (ECO mode)
– Keystone Correction: '+/-15 Degrees
– Audio: One Internal Speaker with 2 watts Output
– Weight: 2.3Kg
– Dimension: 256 x 198 x 92 mm (10.1" x 7.8" x 3.6")
– Remote control with PgUp/PgDn function and empowering key (scenerio mode selection)

JohnR

Re: Acer PH110 - thoughts?
« Reply #2 on: 31 Jul 2007, 12:26 pm »
BTW I bought it, and it's a love/hate thing. The love part is that it's so great to curl up in front of the fire and watch movies that big. The hate part is that when the scene is dark and something moves, there is this "trail" that follows the moving person/thing. Is that what's called the DLP "rainbow effect"?

MaxCast

Re: Acer PH110 - thoughts?
« Reply #3 on: 31 Jul 2007, 01:25 pm »
I'd take it back if you can.  Any projector will give you the love thing, but the hate thing will be there forever.
What is your source (TV, DVD,etc.)?  And what resolution are they?
If I read the spec right it can do 1080i.

I think rainbow effect will be on any scene/colors and ghosting is on dark scenes.

JohnR

Re: Acer PH110 - thoughts?
« Reply #4 on: 1 Aug 2007, 09:44 am »
Too much love for too little $$. Later on it can become the TV :D

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Re: Acer PH110 - thoughts?
« Reply #5 on: 5 Aug 2007, 06:27 pm »
Hi John.
Sorry to come late to the party, but I may be able to provide some answers for you regarding the projector (PJ) and what "rainbow effects" (R.B.E.)are.

I've never seen RBE, so I'm not sure if I'm one of the folks who are susceptible to it so I can't tell you with first hand experience if what you're seeing is indeed RBE, but few are bothered by it so the chances you're one of them is slim.
Here's a very good explanation of what RBE is from ProjectorCentral.com:
It's too much to copy and paste, but go about halfway down the page and look for,
"A Potential Problem with DLP: The Rainbow Effect"

http://www.projectorcentral.com/lcd_dlp.htm

I ASSUME that this PJ uses a "1X" speed color wheel based on it's age. I poked around the specs but can't find where it says what type of wheel it uses. That's why I'm assuming it's a 1X. otherwise they'd be bragging about it being more. No reason to brag on "Gen I DLP technology", if you know what I mean.

About that trail you're seeing; Is it like a glowing/ghosting effect that follows?
For instance, if you have a fellow with a black suit on with a white shirt and he move to the side, does the white shirt "bleed" onto the black jacket?
If so, check your PJ's settings. You may have things cranked up too much (contrast/brightness etc....)
The unit may have been used for business presentation and in most cases the setting are turned way up make up for excessive throw distances and rooms with much more ambient light than your living room has.
If you don't have one, check into a video calibration disc from AVIA, or ...... can't remember the name of the other popular one. They're cheap, like $20-$30 for a DVD. They're very easy to use.

The unit is out of production, and (surprisingly) more information isn't to be found on "the king of PJ websites", so without an all out massive Google search for more info, I can't tell you much more.

An interesting thing I notice regarding the physical design of the unit:


That's a weird "cave" the lens sit in. It would seem to me that the reflective silver paint "in the cave" would alter the image after passing through this area. I'd hate to use the word "tweak", but I wonder what would happen if this area where flat black, or something non-reflective......... aa

Bob