[crazyface]

Hello! 

I know absolutely nothing about vinyl or turntables...  Could you help me in finding my first record player, and in answering a number of newbie-type questions I've got?

Thanks!  I knew I could count on you, internetstrangersfromwhomItakewhilegivi ngnothinginreturn. 

I'd like to get into the "bottom-end of the sweet spot", with my first turntable purchase.  Nothing that's more than a few hundred US dollars, if possible - but that's still ever-so-slightly more-than-good-enough to show me what the magic of vinyl is all about.  Can you make some recommendations?  Are there any good sources for refurbished models?  Is the stylus the most important part of the turntable?  Are all stylus compatible with all tonearms/turntables?  Should I upgrade my stylus right away - how much difference does it make?

Once I've got one, what do I need to integrate into my system?  Ideally, I'd like to be able to just plug it straight into my headphone amp (my headphone amp has RCA inputs).  Is this possible?  I looked at my father's turntable and on its RCA outputs it has an additional wire - the "GROUND" wire.  What is this about?  Does this mean I can't use the turntable with my headphone amp?
I also listened to my father's turntable.  I chose a record that looked perfectly clean, free of dust or particles - yet when I played it, there were still pops and clicks.  Is this normal?  Was this because he has a particularly old/cheap turntable?

Finally, what are some good ways to build my record collection?  I love avant-garde, classical, and experimental/historical Eastern European (Eisler, Weil, Shostakovich, etc.), but also plenty of more mainstream stuff like soundtracks to films (of the whole 20th century, from early to late).  I searched for a few titles I was interested in, and was dismayed to see that they are rare/expensive...I feel like I'm in a race against deterioration/collectors to get the music I want before it's all gone!  How should I go about collecting the titles I want before they disappear?  What are good sources from which to buy, besides the obvious eBay?

Thank you so much for your help!!!!

[crazyface]

whoops, i didn't notice there was a vinyl circle!  i tried to delete this message but it wouldn't let me.    i'll repost this in the right section, i'm sorry!  i hope an admin can just delete this?

[doug s.]

if you want to buy new, i think the technics sl1200, w/kabusa mods, is your best bet.  origin-live makes an armboard that will allow adaption of the excellent rega arms - even better w/o-l upgrades.

but, if you are willing to shop used, i would strongly recommend a vintage empire turntable.  for everuthing you ever wanted to know about them, check out this site:

http://cognitivevent.com/av_empire.html


hard to beat one of these, even stock, for anywhere near their typical selling prices.  and, you might get really lucky, & get one for next to nothing at a garage sale, or from craigslist.

another vintage choiec would be the lenco l75/78 series, or similar.  with mods, these supposedly will take on all comers, at wirtually any price, tho i have no 1ft-hand experience...

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/maddogmcq/myart/lencoheaven/johnnantais.htm


again, these are not expensive, & you could steal ne at a garage sale, or on craigslist, if you get lucky...

doug s.

[Danny Kaey]

get a Technics 1200 w/ the new Zu 103 cartridge...

trust me, you will need to spend tenfold to get marginally better sound.

[Brad]

Danny - any details on the Zu 103 cart?
thx

[TheChairGuy]

Brad: from 6Moons...

May 07: Zu goes vinyl - Modifying the legendary Denon DL-103 cartridge, the Zu DL-103 [$399] "is naked, with machined body, dual compound epoxy potted motor assembly and body, increased weight and machined directly into body with EIA standard two hole mounting."

For $150.00 less, I'd buy the DL-103R (which has lower impedance and higher purity coil windings).  I'd buy neither as it's still a conical tip at 2.5grams trashing your valued collection.

I think in Japan there is a modder than sells the DL-103R with a new (gentler) Line stylus for less than $399.99.

Anyhow, that's just my un-educated opinion....

[robert1325]

Hi,

I'm using a dl103r and a dl103 before.  It lasted about 25 years ( got it from my dad)    These are great sounding cartbridges,  very musical with nice tight bass and full mids.         

[doug s.]

i know a lot of folks love the denon dl-103's, but i am w/the chair guy - no way i would let a conical (or even elliptical) stylus on my vinyl, now that the fine-line type styli are so readily awailable...

doug s.

[Danny Kaey]

Danny - any details on the Zu 103 cart?
thx

it sounds very dynamic, extended top to bottom with a liquid and sweet midrange... I sold my Kontrapunkt B! more in the review...