Acoustic Zen Adagios, Devore Fidelity Super Gibbon 8s or Thiel 2.4s??

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mcullinan

I feel I am opening up an insidious can of worms, but yes I probably would consider other alternatives... Any suggestions. 

My range is from 4 to 5 K

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Thanks.
Mike

jrebman

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I'd have to say my impressions most resemble those of Bluewax.  I have a strange room in that it is a single open floor plan that is kitchen, dining, and living rooms with only one short 2 foot wall that divides the kitchen area from the living area.  I have less than ideal placement with the Adagios about 6 or so feet apart to the insides, and about 9 or slightly more feet to the listening position.  This setup integrates amazingly well in the room and while there are some reflection issues, for the most part the presentation is well balanced, full bodied, and handles all varieties of music very well.

I agree that they are very much revealing of what's upstream of them and their presentation in my room has changed significantly based on the Minimax preamp, different ICs and speaker cables.  To me they sound just slightly warmish, but that's how I like things, so long as it is not overdone, slow and mushy.

What I have also found with this latest IC change is that to me they are just going to sound better with tubes (to me, that is).

I certainly won't claim they are perfect, but I do believe the very minor complaints I have with them will be addressed with the tweaked crossovers that Response Audio is offering.  If I never did that, I'd still be content, but if it just takes care of a few minor quirks, then it will be worth it to me to do.

They also seem to be a relatively easy load for a 89dB 2-way and I'll be putting this to the test this Friday or early next weelk as I plan to give them a spin with an Audio Note Oto integrated doing the honors -- parallel, single-ended 10 watt EL84 amplification.

I have not heard the particular Thiels mentioned, but I haven't heard a Thiel I've liked yet (which is more about describing my listening preferences than a slam against Thiel speakers), and to me the DeVores just didn't sound "right".  I haven't listened to them very much and not in anything like an optimum room., but I'm fairly good at identifying sonic attributes as to whether they will work for me or not, and the DeVores, for whatever reason just didn't do it for me.

One last note about the Adagios which has not been mentioned so far -- they need to really be worked hard and long to break-in properly -- not the tweets, but the mid/bass drivers, and by long I mean long -- many hundreds of hours at pretty substantial levels and with all manner of music.  So, some of the high-end - mid/bass disconnect is probably due to the fact that the tweeters seem to break in much faster.

I love my Adagios -- they suit my taste and budget well, now I just have to find the right amplification fit for them, and when I do, I'm sure they will make me very happy for a long time to come.

-- Jim

dawkimi

I have not listened to the speakers in your original post.  You may want to conisder Magnepan if you have enough room and good amplification.  You can demo the MMGs directly from Magnepan for 60 days.  These will give you enough of a taste to see if you want to move up to a larger model.  I believe you can get the 3.6Rs in your price range.  I currently own a pair of 3.6s and believe they do a lot of things right.

Another option would be Meadowlark (I know they are out of business).  I owned a pair of Kestrel 2s before switching to my Maggies and thought they were very good speakers.  Good luck in your search and try to arrange for a home audition with your own electronics prior to purchasing.

Mike

TONEPUB

I have only listened to the DeVore's out of the three but they had me searching my car for change(couldn't find enough).  I thought they were WONDERFUL speakers and I plan on trying out a pair of Nines when they come out. 

If you like the 8's, you will love the nines, same thing with a bigger cabinet and extra woofer.
Definitely have that extra bit of bass sock that the 8's lack in a big room!  I had my 8's in a
small room (11 x 17 on the short wall) with a tube amp (MC 275) and they are great..

When I had the Adagios here for review, I liked em best with tubes too.  They were a great
match with the Manley 250's!!!, but did a great job with my prima luna monoblocks too!

IT's all room and system dependent!!

mcullinan

HAs anyone heard the VMPS RM30s? They look cool... Hehe This speaker thing is giving me a headache!
Mike

mcullinan

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Ok I settled on a demo pair of merlin VSM MX SuperBams... Ill let you know how they go.
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bluewax


Very cool; let us know your impressions!  :thumb:


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Ok I settled on a demo pair of merlin VSM MX SuperBams... Ill let you know how they go.
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mcrespo71

(of course, if you're willing to take a short trek out the NJ, shoot me a PM...I'm about as low-pressure as it gets...) 8)

I can vouch for this.  Phil is a peach of a dealer! :thumb: