[andyr]

Hy Andyr

Still ShinOBIWAN is right

A true ribbon has no glue or wires . Itself is the electrical transducer. If you look carefully ad yr midrange panel construction it completely resemble the same structure as your so called "ribon" only mire sturdier and heavier wires I had maggies too ah wait if yr ribbons have no glue or wires.. i read it wrongly
So they are in fact ribbons?

Kyrill,

Read my post again, carefully.

What I said was: "My Maggie IIIas consist of a mylar panel which has the bass and mid-range wires glued to it.

Plus it has a separate 5' long ribbon supported in a metal "cage".  This is pleated aluminium foil - not wire glued to mylar - suspended between 2 magnets.  It crosses over to the mid-range panel driver at 2,600Hz.

So they are not solely "ribbon speakers" they are planar-ribbon hybrids.

But they do have a very long ribbon as one of the drivers."

AFAIK, there is no full range speaker which just consists of a ribbon - because ribbons simply can't flex enough to produce the amount of air you need to produce good bass.  So a "ribbon speaker" always consists of a ribbon and at least one other driver - in my case, two.

Regards,

Andy

[andyr]

Was that really called for? PM me if you want to talk shit.

Your arguing semantics. My point was that the Maggies et. al aren't true ribbons at all which you've referred to them as. And drawing comparison about the robustness between the differing types is misleading. I think Hugh was referencing just true ribbons when he questioned their usefulness.
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No it wasn't - my apologies for having been rude.  I guess it was your previous historsy as the guy who bought an AKSA, then decided a Greg Ball amp must be better so sold it to buy the Ball ... then realised the AKSA was better, that got the better of me in terms of thinking you are someone who dosn't really seem to have a clue. 

And if you don't think Maggies are "ribbon speakers, I suggest you have a look at the Magnepan site - or read some reviews in Stereophile.  Those audio reviewers call them "ribbon speakers".

Regards,

Andy

[kyrill]

Hy Andyr

Still ShinOBIWAN is right

A true ribbon has no glue or wires . Itself is the electrical transducer. If you look carefully ad yr midrange panel construction it completely resemble the same structure as your so called "ribon" only mire sturdier and heavier wires I had maggies too ah waitif yr ribbons have no glue or wires.. i read it wrongly
So they are in fact ribbons?

Kyrill,

Read my post again, carefully. why? I already admit see orange part"i read it wrongly. Have you missed reading that?

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Regards,

Andy

[AKSA]

Andy,

Can we please soften the tone?  I don't want conflict here - train wrecks are not appealing.

Shinobiwan, you are right, I was referring to pure ribbons, of the type Kyrill is working with.

Cheers,

Hugh

[ShinOBIWAN]

No it wasn't - my apologies for having been rude.  I guess it was your previous historsy as the guy who bought an AKSA, then decided a Greg Ball amp must be better so sold it to buy the Ball ... then realised the AKSA was better, that got the better of me in terms of thinking you are someone who dosn't really seem to have a clue. 

Well what a truly excellent reason to call someone, and I quote, a "wanker". I guess I'll have to come down to your IQ level to understand that one.

We'll hopefully be listening to an LF100 soon. Lets hope it does well considering the price tag, a room full of enthusiasts and some stiff competition. I'm sure somebody will post opinions of the various kit somewhere on the net, good or bad.

And if you don't think Maggies are "ribbon speakers, I suggest you have a look at the Magnepan site - or read some reviews in Stereophile.  Those audio reviewers call them "ribbon speakers".

Regards,

Andy

Now where did I say they weren't ribbons?

I did say the Maggies weren't true ribbons which the AC G3 clearly is. Then I pointed out that you're making a mistake drawing reliability comparisons and generally confusing the two differing types. There was nothing to object to in my post, it was fact.

[AKSA]

Hey you two,

If I see any response to Shino's post, which is inflammatory, I will lock this thread without compunction.       
I might add this will be the first time this has happened in this forum.

Hugh

[ShinOBIWAN]

Hey you two,

If I see any response to Shino's post, which is inflammatory, I will lock this thread without compunction.       
I might add this will be the first time this has happened in this forum.

Hugh

I have to say that people generally have their feelings or opinions on a particular product or company polarised by the seemingly opposing camp. I can only surmise that this is what Andy is experiencing to have come to insults over an innocuous correction regarding ribbon terminology.

Some nice company you keep here Hugh, real nice.