NuForce help

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NuForce help
« on: 25 Apr 2007, 04:35 pm »
A question about NuForce amps was posted yesterday in the Salk Owner's Circle.  Since I have no experience with these amps, I thought I would post here and perhaps someone here can help address this poster's questions.  He is from Australia and wants to know about mating a NuForce amp with a pair of our Veracity HT3's.

Thanks, in advance, for any help you might be able to offer.

- Jim

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Re: NuForce help
« Reply #1 on: 26 Apr 2007, 06:46 am »
Thanks for bringing this up. I think the poster owns Nuforce and is asking whether there is any Salk owner who use Nuforce with their speakers.  While I looked at the specification of the Salk HT3 and it's not going to be a technical issue (85dB sensitivity, 8-ohm load, i.e. 100W solid state power is plenty).  But we have not personally heard the Salk, so we cannot offer any meaningful response.


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Re: NuForce help
« Reply #2 on: 29 Apr 2007, 08:25 am »
Hi, I am the poster on the Salk owners forum who tried to elicit some feedback from Veracity HT3 owners ( thank you Jim for posting to this forum ).  It appears none have heard the Nu Force except one owner who tried many different amps with the HT3's, including early Ref 9's, posting a comparison with the DNA 500 back in Sept. 2005.  He didn't particularly take to the Nu Force, at the same time, no real attempt was made to 'tweak' them into his system where the DNA 500 resided, (using different IC's, PC's, speaker cables etc.) which I have found the Nu Force is particularly sensitive to.  I personally feel this is what polarises the responses to Nu Force, more so than most other amps.

In any case, the Salk HT3's are described as very neutral and accurate speakers which could be regarded as being very unforgiving of poorly recorded material.  In other words, they are open windows to the music and in a reference class. I already have the Ref 9.02's and am considering the 9.02SE's to bi-amp the Salks, or just replace the 9.02's. The 9.02 SE's are also very neutral, and reference class.  Does a very neutral amp going with very neutral speakers sound like it might be a bit on the dry side ?  Has anyone paired the 9SE's with such speakers who might be able to comment.  The Salk owners seem to be gravitating to tube based amps for preferred synergy, which add something of their own.   I do have a tube based pre-amp ( Modwright SWL 9.0SE, tube rectified version ) which is fairly neutrally voiced, which however adds a bit of 'body' to the sound.  The Salks use SEAS mid-range drivers, similar to Tyler Accoustics.  I read a post here where the Nu Force 9SE's paired well with the Tyler Woodmere 2's, however I am not sure if their voicing is as neutral as the Salks.  Anyone out there who has experimented with the SE's with such speakers ? Or is this generally impossible to predict ( neutral with neutral 'synergy' ) without trying it ?

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Re: NuForce help
« Reply #3 on: 29 Apr 2007, 12:54 pm »
The 9SEs work extremely well with the very neutral Quad 2805 / 2905 speakers.

brj

Re: NuForce help
« Reply #4 on: 1 May 2007, 12:01 am »
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The Salk owners seem to be gravitating to tube based amps for preferred synergy, which add something of their own.

Based purely on conversations and AC posts, I would say that many users are gravitating toward hybrid amps.  Even these two hybrid amps don't have the same topology, and I've also read about good pairings with some particular class D and solid state amps.  As a result, I think you might be back to personal preferences again! :)

(Personally, I'd love to hear all of these amps with my HT3s, as well as a few others - including another Hypex based class D amp and the NuForce Ref 9 V2, provided that it competes with the SE version of the Ref9 V1.)


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Or is this generally impossible to predict ( neutral with neutral 'synergy' ) without trying it ?

There are so many things that play into system synergy, that I'd have a hard time taking any prediction at face value - especially since personal preferences are so different anyway.

Good luck!

Edit: Oops - I just noticed this was the NuForce circle and not the Salk circle... I've removed the names of other amp manufactures as a result.

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Re: NuForce help
« Reply #5 on: 5 May 2007, 10:53 am »
Thanks for the feedback.  I'll be running my Veracity HT3's with the new Nu Force Ref 9V2SE's.  It'll be some time before it's all up and running as Jim is only about to start building my HT3's.  From my research and feedback I've recieved, there appears to be no reason why this combination shouldn't work very well. There is the possibility it may be absolutely stunning, given the right synergy with reference quality components.  I'm hoping the magic happens, will keep you posted.