RM 40's For Sale Near Tampa, Florida

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ka7niq

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RM 40's For Sale Near Tampa, Florida
« on: 18 Mar 2007, 08:39 pm »
This is a copy of my AudioGon ad.

VMPS Spiral RM 40's with TRT capacitor option.
Serial numbers 11947 and 11948 TRT
These also have the TRUE Bi Wire/Bi Amp option w/o the switch for better sonic purity.Black Piano Lacquer finish, rated 6 to be real conservative.
One passive radiator has a hole in it due to several vain attempts to tune the previously leaking woofers.
Early RM 40's had a problem with the woofer surrounds coming unglued.
This was not VMPS fault, as they were sold a glue that ultimately did not hold up, though they were assured it would.VMPS offered me free repair, but I chose to have it done locally by a speaker tech who is a fellow audiophile, and friend.
It was done right using shims to center the voice coil, and all old glue was removed.
One passive radiator will need to be repaired, or a new one can be purchased from VMPS.
If you are planning on taking advantage of the several upgrade paths VPMS offers for the RM 40, you may want to consider the better vitrified passive radiators anyway, making this a moot point.
I own several pairs of high end speakers, including huge 300 lb Von Schweikert Vortex Screen Prototypes.
The Big Von Schweikert Vortex Screen Prototypes are a very, very wide baffle speaker, and better suit my room dimensions.
My room is 26 feet wide, and they better fill it up width wise then the tall, narrow RM 40's.
I have the shipping boxes, so they can be safely shipped.
I will post pictures later.
My phone number is 813 655 8777


steve_osugi

Re: RM 40's For Sale Near Tampa, Florida
« Reply #1 on: 19 Mar 2007, 04:40 pm »
Hi ka7niq,

I contacted you via audiogon email this weekend (shosugi).  I'd like to figure out with Brian's and other's help if these will work out for me.

Thanks!

- Steve O.

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Re: RM 40's For Sale Near Tampa, Florida
« Reply #2 on: 19 Mar 2007, 08:04 pm »
Hi ka7niq,

I contacted you via audiogon email this weekend (shosugi).  I'd like to figure out with Brian's and other's help if these will work out for me.

Thanks!

- Steve O.
I am sure Brian and others will help you.
All these need is a new passive radiator, or perhaps one can simply reglue the small hole I accidentally poked in one ?

Otherwise,, there are no issues.
These are early TRT RM 40's with spiral tweeters.
Many upgrades are availiable for them.

I have MANY High End speakers, and it came down to simply an asthetic decision.
In a 26 foot wide room, I prefer the super wide look of the Big Von Schweikert Prototypes.
They just LOOK better in my room.

These RM 40's will make their new owner very happy, and even more so with all the great upgrades Brian has availiable.






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Re: RM 40's For Sale Near Tampa, Florida
« Reply #3 on: 20 Mar 2007, 04:57 pm »
26 feet wide is huge.  My room is around that size, but in length.  Width-wise, my room is about half that size.

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Re: RM 40's For Sale Near Tampa, Florida
« Reply #4 on: 20 Mar 2007, 06:29 pm »
26 feet wide is huge.  My room is around that size, but in length.  Width-wise, my room is about half that size.
Yeah, that's what I am talking about!
The big, wide Von Schweikert just take up space better.

When you get to the quality of really good speakers like the RM 40's, the Von Schweikert, and the B&W 801's, it sometimes comes down to purely aesthetics.

From a listening point of view, and this is my PERSONAL opinion, I like the Matrix 801's the very best.

But. they are almost stupid looking in my wide roof, looking like little r2/d2 clones, LOL

Plus, they won't play loud enough for my tastes w/o activating the APOC protection circuitry.

I currently have a SVS Ultra Subwoofer, and they barely "make it over" it.

I have 2 monster 9.5 cu ft corner mounted subwoofers being built using the 15" TC Sounds LMS drivers!

They will look like the bottoms of Klipschorns, designed to go into the corners.

These TC Sounds LMS 15" Woofers are bad mammyjammers with 36 mm X Max each!

LEAP predicts 3 db down at 20hz w/o any room gain!
In a sealed box too!

No way the little 801's are going to provide enough output for what I want.

The Von Schweikert are 94 db efficient, and will play LOUD w/o strain, or need of a big amp.

So will the RM 40's, if given enough power.

The subwoofers I am having built are POWER HUNGRY.
The one SVS Ultra I currently have is using a bridged Ashly FET 500, about 1200 watts into 4 ohms.

When I play the RM 40's and it, it causes my lights to flicker and dim!

It will only "get worse" with the twin TC Sounds 15's and their 36 mm X Max!

They need POWER, and Lot's of it to play to full excursion.

In MY situation, EFFICIENCY is what my main speakers must have.

Brian told me he might come out with some higher efficiency woofers for the RM 40's.
Of course, the "penalty" one would pay for this efficiency increase will be some loss of Low Bass.

NOT a consideration for me, because not even a pair of RM 40's could hope to approach one corner mounted 12" SVS Ultra subwoofer in sheer room shaking ability, much less a Pair of TC Sounds 15" LMS Flagship drivers in monster sized boxes.

I have suggested to Brian he may want to think about making a VMPS RM 40 SHE, or Super High Efficiency, for those of us in impossibly big rooms using subwoofers anyway.

The ribbons themselves have plenty of efficiency, but the woofers are "power hungry".

Therefore, the ribbons must give up their high efficiency capabilities to blend with the woofers.

A design decision, and it works, in many, and most rooms, just not in mine.

Kevin here in Tampa owns RM 40's driven with only 100 watts of Kora Tube Power and has NO Need for subwoofers.






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Re: RM 40's For Sale Near Tampa, Florida
« Reply #5 on: 26 Mar 2007, 12:26 am »
Hi ka7niq,

I contacted you via audiogon email this weekend (shosugi).  I'd like to figure out with Brian's and other's help if these will work out for me.

Thanks!

- Steve O.
I got your email, and you said they would just be "too big" for your situation.

That's too bad.
When I was thinking about buying new RM 40's, I was in a small waterfront apartment.
I too was considering a smaller VMPS model, like an RM 2, because I was concerned about the RM 40's overloading a room, etc, etc.

Brian told me an RM 40 would sound better in ANY room.

It is real simple actually, the more ribbons, the lower the distortion, and the better the sound, all things being equal.

The question for you is, do you want a tall, narrow speaker, in your home ?

The tall don't bother me, it is the narrow I can do w/o simply because I have a wide space to "fill in" in my room.

I hope things work out for you Steve, and it was  real nice emailing with you.
Best wishes!
Chris