Items with best results from cryo treating - which are best?

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byteme

Hey, all this talk recently about cryo treating got me curious about sending some stuff in for treatment.  It also got me thinking about what cryo'ing has the best effect on.  From reading it seems that power stuff (cables, outlets, plugs, etc) are very often cryo'd so I'm sure that would be high on the list, or is that because it's smaller stuff?

So, what ranks highest?

Tubes
Duplex receptacles
Power cords
speaker cable
IC's
smaller components
other various goodies?

KevinW

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« Reply #1 on: 15 Jul 2003, 05:29 pm »
Good question!  
From my experiences with cryo, which are significant because of my proximity to Jena Labs, I can provide a rough estimate on what components benefit the most.  Although a rigorous ranking isn't really possible.

1.  Power components.  It seems the cryo really "cleans up" the metal-metal contacts on power duplex outlets and power cords.  When I first installed a cryo'd power outlet, I was shocked at how much better the sound became.

2.  Wire of any kind.  This means interconnects, speaker cables, power cords, hookup wire inside amps, circuit board traces, and any other metal through which electrons flow.

3.  Resistors, and diodes.  Cryo treatment does clean these up a bit too.  I really love the cryo-treated hexfreds.

4.  Vacuum tubes.  I am comparing a new production, cryo'd EI 12AT7 to a NOS Mullard 12AT7 right now.  They are very similar in sound, even though the EI's cost $30 less.  That would count as a dramatic improvement in my book!  I've got another pair of Mullard 12AT7's in the tank right now.  We'll see just how much better those get.  Regarding power tubes, I haven't tested those yet.


Now if you want to spend money on cryo, I would start with your power products and your cables.  If you are into DIY, consider sending in your resistors and diodes in for treatment (they will be cheap since cryo is generally by the pound).  You can also purchase pre-cryo'd DIY-parts if you ask around.

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« Reply #2 on: 15 Jul 2003, 06:27 pm »
Couldn't have said it better myself Kevin.  

I will offer a group rate of $7 per pound if the guys on the Circle can come up with over 10 pounds worth of stuff to treat..  I need at least $70 to cover my costs of the LN2.

This does not include return shipping, that will be billed out individually.

Cheers!

byteme

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« Reply #3 on: 15 Jul 2003, 06:33 pm »
Hey!  Cool.  I've got a couple power cords, some tubes and am waiting on some hubbell outlets to arrive that I'd like to get done.  I'd have to weigh the stuff but I doubt it's 10lbs. worth so I'd need some help to get the weight up.

What method do you use?  The Jena Labs like immersion technique (not to imply they invented it or anything) or the vapor method?

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« Reply #4 on: 16 Jul 2003, 02:02 am »
I would like to know what negative experiences people have had in order to avoid such occurances and the reason why.

Has Silver been treated? WIth what results?

I have Outlets, Connectors and wire I will be sending soon. I will use Cryo Intl. and have them done twice. Especially the outlets.

I plan on marketing a cable soon and will be testing the cryo vs. the uncryo'd before I do. There is a whole list of testing I will be doing soon involving a number of different cables with different configurations.

Of what I understand Outlets and Copper wire is the most used equiptment for this treatment. almost all my wires are cryo'd.

Good luck!