Question about RIAA and bandwidth

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Question about RIAA and bandwidth
« on: 7 Feb 2007, 02:00 am »
Why is there such a difference in RIAA and bandwidth between the Bugle & Cornet?
Is it that the tubes do not extend? And if so that seems funny because we always talk about tubes being so airy.
Does this RIAA and bandwidth changes with tubes on the Cornet?


Bugle
RIAA Response       +/-0.5dB from 30Hz to 60kHz
Bandwidth (-3dB)     15Hz to 150kHz

Cornet
RIAA Response       +/-1dB from 25Hz to 25kHz
Bandwidth               15Hz to 30kHz

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Re: Question about RIAA and bandwidth
« Reply #1 on: 7 Feb 2007, 03:32 am »
The flatness spec is for EQ accuracy.  With tube variations it's hard to keep it down to +/-0.25dB, so I spec it a little wider.  It changes up to 1dB simply by putting in used tubes.

For -3dB point, I usually forget to bypass some test equipment which rolls off at about 32kHz.  It's a buffered and isolated iRIAA circuit.  Probably forgot to use a straight iRIAA to test bandwidth on the CORNET.  Maybe I'll do that in a couple of days.  The TRUMPET ran out to 450kHz -3dB.  And that's with wimpy 12AX7s. 

"Airiness" is something that occurs between 10k and 30k.  Usually it is caused by an overemphasis (non-flat EQ) such as an over aggressive tweeter.  Extending well beyond 20k leads to a "realism".  Often it manifests as a feeling or emotional perception, rather than a blatant audible response.  So yeah, without bandwidth, you can't get either the "air" or the "realism".  It's really wierd, I think, in that the wider the response, the less harsh the treble.  But that's just me.

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Re: Question about RIAA and bandwidth
« Reply #2 on: 7 Feb 2007, 01:40 pm »
It's really wierd, I think, in that the wider the response, the less harsh the treble.  But that's just me.

It's not just you. ;-)