George Georgopoulos Amplifiers

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George Georgopoulos Amplifiers
« on: 22 Jan 2007, 10:04 pm »
Hi

I just want to let you know that dvd is a great source component for
a high quality audio system and that our labs have selected some of
the really good dvd players for sale through our website.

check it out at
http://georgopoulos.awardspace.com

Quotes from a demonstration of our mosfet350 amplifier
"Clean" "Very Musical" "Tonal Balanced" and "Great Execution"

Cheers



fajimr

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« Reply #1 on: 22 Jan 2007, 10:08 pm »
how is this related to an industry ad???  you have one crappy picture of a DVD sitting on a table and say you have others....  please, if you really want to sell your products here you have to be more clear.

(edit for clarification)

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« Reply #2 on: 22 Jan 2007, 10:23 pm »
"please, if you really want to sell your products here you have to be more clear."

for those interested you can check at my site and more information can be
made available through emailing, other than that you buy what you pay for
we dont disclose technical info on how we evaluate our products and others
our main aim is to give others a quality product we think is good, if you
dont like that you could look elsewhere AC is full of other providers of audio
gear

hope that clears things up

kind regards



miklorsmith

Re: George Georgopoulos Amplifiers
« Reply #3 on: 22 Jan 2007, 10:24 pm »
Are you a Doctor of Anthropology?  Scientology?

I'll reiterate my offer to sit on the demo circle and offer my candid remarks when you decide to send out one of these beauties for in-home auditions.

Face it, with no press, no buzz, and a high annoyance factor, you'll never sell even one of these amps until some reputable others weigh in.

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Re: George Georgopoulos Amplifiers
« Reply #4 on: 22 Jan 2007, 10:28 pm »
I have sold more than i can make
I just cant make them fast enough thats my problem

kind regards
ps thanks for your offer but demos are available by appointement only

shep

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« Reply #5 on: 22 Jan 2007, 10:30 pm »
When I think of the s...t Bill went thru...how long is this going to go on?

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Re: George Georgopoulos Amplifiers
« Reply #6 on: 22 Jan 2007, 10:33 pm »
come on guys cheer up

it is just an ad, just ignore it if not interested!

kind regards

miklorsmith

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« Reply #7 on: 22 Jan 2007, 10:41 pm »
If you were a consumer looking to buy a new amplifier, what basis might you cite to justify buying a GGA amplifier over the scads of other choices?  The claimed 20 hz to 25 khz extension, tolerance not specified?  Maybe the undisclosed power ratings?  How about the sterling photography?  I presume these are solid state amps?

Oh, now I see you also sell DVD players from your "state of the art" facilities, and that all the models you sell are of the same quality but are not all the same model.  There is no disclosure what models they might be, though the price is a tidy $150.  In my 20+ years of gearhead pursuit, I've never seen a stranger offer.

Try to look at it from our point of view.  Then, either try to position yourself as a legitimate business entity or please stop doing this.
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opnly bafld

Re: George Georgopoulos Amplifiers
« Reply #8 on: 22 Jan 2007, 10:50 pm »
come on guys cheer up

it is just an ad, just ignore it if not interested!

kind regards

Has anyone from AC ever bought one of your amps?
If not, then why waste time posting ads?
You seem to be too busy anyhow, you mentioned them selling faster than you can make them.
Lin

shep

Re: George Georgopoulos Amplifiers
« Reply #9 on: 22 Jan 2007, 11:10 pm »
You're missing the point George, unless you are being purposefully obtuse. It's not "just an ad". If that were the case, you lost the battle to win clients before you even began. Even if you made the best amps on the planet, nobody in their right mind would buy one based on your web site, which is frankly insulting
to the intelligence of the experienced, which is the audience you are addressing here. The un-experienced will probably never find it anyway. In case you haven't noticed, all the dealers and manufacturers on this forum go to great lenghts to present clear, precise discriptions of what they are offering. That includes photos that can actually be seen. They also go a long way, beyond the call of duty, in answering questions, on-line and in detail about their products. You seem to have totally misunderstood the content and intent of this forum. I am just a member of no particular standing, but in view of recent events and the wholehearted efford of everyone concerned to make this a very special OPEN place, I am getting seriously pissed off.

fajimr

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Re: George Georgopoulos Amplifiers
« Reply #10 on: 22 Jan 2007, 11:10 pm »
I imagine this is another troll for hits... his last thread was locked up when there was no evidence that anyone had actually purchased an amp.  If I am wrong and if there are reviews, please let me know.  I just haven't seen anything. 

Yes, we can all put you on ignore but we also are interested in the integrity of the AC and simply ask that you provide some indication that you actually have products that real people have purchased and listened to.  I can't understand how it could be possible that so many people are buying your amps, yet no one wants to talk about them.

[sigh]...  such is the world of the internet... all one has to do is click on your name and read all your previous posts

jim

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Re: George Georgopoulos Amplifiers
« Reply #11 on: 22 Jan 2007, 11:15 pm »
I am getting seriously pissed off.

hey shep.. that's exactly what he is looking for, IMHO.  I think our role is to simply point out the fact that he doesn't have anything concrete to offer (from our perspective) for other members who might be taken in.  Not sure what the process is of having charlatans banned or tarred and feathered... but please don't let him get to you.

regards
jim

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Re: George Georgopoulos Amplifiers
« Reply #12 on: 22 Jan 2007, 11:20 pm »

...we dont disclose technical info on how we evaluate our products and others
our main aim is to give others a quality product we think is good, if you
dont like that you could look elsewhere AC is full of other providers of audio
gear

hope that clears things up

kind regards


Hey!

   Okay, if you say so.... that is exactly what I will do Dr. G :lol:

Take care,
Buddy :thumb:

shep

Re: George Georgopoulos Amplifiers
« Reply #13 on: 22 Jan 2007, 11:22 pm »
Yeah I will take his advice and ignore in the future. Can't imagine what strange pleasure he derives from this though.

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Re: George Georgopoulos Amplifiers
« Reply #14 on: 23 Jan 2007, 01:00 am »
Quote
for those interested you can check at my site and more information can be
made available through emailing, other than that you buy what you pay for
we don't disclose technical info on how we evaluate our products and others
our main aim is to give others a quality product we think is good, if you
dont like that you could look elsewhere AC is full of other providers of audio
gear

hope that clears things up

kind regards

There is no email address on your website. There is no contact info at all. No address, no PO box, no telephone number. Where are your laboratories (plural, as you allude to) located?

From your about "us" section of your website.

Quote
ABOUT US

Dr George Georgopoulos is a leading Expert on stereo format home audio amplification
We are also the manufacturers of high quality stereo format power amplifiers for home use

we are the stereo format EXPERTS...

Can you fill in the blanks here?

The questions people are asking in regards to your credibility, are only going to help your cause if you answer. As it stands, you don't give people a whole lot to go on.

For starters, where are you located?

Cheers

eico1

Re: George Georgopoulos Amplifiers
« Reply #15 on: 23 Jan 2007, 02:51 am »
Sorry to gang up, but ol' Geogies' web site has at least one complete copyright violation,


http://georgopoulos.awardspace.com/p16.htm


http://www.audiodesignline.com/howto/175006800

If I understand anything about the web, that's not playing nice, especially when you put your name down at the bottom....Doctor!:)

steve

TheChairGuy

Re: George Georgopoulos Amplifiers
« Reply #16 on: 23 Jan 2007, 03:22 am »
George,

I realize (English) language is a bit of obstacle for you to present your products, but you offer up very little in the way of information here in Industry Ads, or even on your website, about your wares.

Really, I don't solder (or, at least solder badly the last time I picked up a gun), yet I could develop a better, more presentable website than GGA and make one believe I am an amp manufacturer. 

George, you need to come up with something more substantial than your views on audio and other designs here in Industry Ads.  The focus must be on your products and your products alone. No swipes at Nelson Pass or other designers or objectivist.  Do not use bad press about others as your good press for your products.

Please come up with something more substantial about what you do and design or I have no choice but to toss this posting, too.

Sorry about the tone.....but we don't want members to engage in conversation that isn't relevant to their understanding of audio, or betterment of their current system. Here in Industry Ads, you need to focus your efforts at promoting your products...not denigrating the work of others.     

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« Reply #17 on: 23 Jan 2007, 05:56 am »
Hi guys and thanks for your input

first let me say a couple of points
i have sold amplifiers and i guess the people who bought them should be happy
my amps are not super products i have made them at home by myself
i havent got the resources to do all that you request and my capability relating to
production is limited "one person" also i have to deal with personal life difficulties which
get in the way of my developing business all this has contributed to what you
call "limited etc" i understand that

now some of you are hardcore experienced in audio and most of your points are valid
however i am what i am and i do my best to provide you with what you ask

am i an amp manufacturer, you bet!
i have built amps all my life i am 40 now so my experience is prety good
i have researched amps for years and i can say
that the best amp is yet to come

i cant talk about it, you see amplifiers are more about musicality and the ear
to me specifications say little about that, specifications are there however
and they steer the amplifier's electrical properties transparently if i listed
specifications of my amps it would be a disservice to my amps

=some clarification=
as you probably know the ear is a complex instrument so an amplifier has to
be complex as well if we want to offer something different as you know most
of todays specifications say little to how the ear perceives sound for example
distortion you have good amps with lots of it and you have good amps with
little of it, both types of amps sound good, so whats the point of listing
distortion as specification, however what is that makes those amps good
it is not distortion i talk of course of subtle forms of distortion not those
that distort the form of audio such as crossover,clipping etc..

so my point being that the mechanisms of the ear are more important than
traditional specifications and much of my research over the years has been
focused on those mechanisms that most please the listener by now you
must have guessed that all this has been secret research and as such i
can not disclose more info but to clarify a few points about traditional
specifications and how irrelavant they are when you design for the ear
as a focal point

needless to say that this is highly controversal as most things in audio you
have a  lot of people trying to understand what you are saying but due to
the lack of total disclosure they protest it as mere speculation the fact that
most amplifiers are designed with the basis of electrical form that is specifications
that define some basis of reference for good sound with disregard for extended
look into the ear mechanisms and how that electrical form correlates with them
is one of the areas overlooked by many traditional amplifier designers

so we have established that electrical form (specs) can only give you sometimes
meaningless repeatable results by which most amps are referenced and have put
a stop to anything else

cheers :wink:


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Re: George Georgopoulos Amplifiers
« Reply #18 on: 23 Jan 2007, 06:01 am »
 :sleep:


shep

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« Reply #19 on: 23 Jan 2007, 10:13 am »
babble :sleep: