[Pacio]

Hi all,
I just need your advice on the following:
I will set up my audio system with a Ah! Njoe Tjoeb Ultra 4000 CD player (E288CC Siemens tubes in class A output stage), TVC Reference dual mono passive pre, Odyssey Stratos Extreme with all upgrades and VMPS RM30M speakers. I will get Anti-cable for power connections but I'm quite undecided for IC cables.
My question is: do you think I can get Signal cable in silver (now special offer at 99$) or better should I stay with copper cable (maybe Signal Ref 2)?
What would you do?
Any advice is very welcome.
Thanks and kind regards,
Marco

[LightFire]

Stay with copper cables (IC and power).

[gooberdude]

you'll probably experience a thrilling synergy if you throw at least one anti-IC in the mix...maybe
betw your amp & pre.    Going all speltz has its advantages!   I may try out a silver anti-IC, but i'm not switching brands for some time...

no affiliation...

[Pacio]

Didn't know Anti-IC comes in silver as well. I kwon it's in copper..isn't it?
Marco

[PaulFolbrecht]

Mail Paul.  He makes silver too on request.  I believe it's $150 extra per meter.

But I definitely second (third?) the rec to stay copper.  Silver usually sounds brighter; it probably only sounds better half the time.

[TONEPUB]

another great inexpensive cable I have heard recently have been
the audio art cables.  I belive 1m pairs are between 69 and 99 bucks.

Defintitely fantastic for the money!

[rollo]

Pacio,
           If your system is on the light,bright or thin side stay away from copper.If your bass is goes below 30HZ and is not strong stay away from silver.
           If your system is rich,dark or laid back use copper.There are advantages in using the same cable throughout as there is a uniform impedance and capacitance.
            Try the Anti-Cable IC and speaker as they compliment each other quite well.There is a 30 day money back guar, so nothing to lose.If you go AC order with Bullet RCA's as they DO make a difference for the good.At $150/copper,$200/silver,maybe $250 not sure.
rollo

[Pacio]

Thanks Rollo,
the thing is that since this is my yet-to-be-delivered first audio system, I actually don't have any idea on what kind of sound I will get in reality. For this reason I'm wondering which cables to get for them to be a good match with the rest of components. Basing on what you said, and the components I choose (warm CD player with tubes output stage, transparent passive pre TVC ref., powerful Odyssey Stratos extreme full upgraded and revealing speakers such as VMPS RM30M) I might get a bright, clear and powerful sound, with good bass slightly below 30Hz and detailed sound (not too harsh or forwarding), with body. This is what I assume basing on the reviews and comments on the gear I choose. After than that, the suggestion to stay with Anti cable all over is quite clear, I still don't know if I could try silver (will I be able to note the possible difference in sound??)..the all copper, Anti Cables IC and power seems to be the definitive solution?..
Thanks,
Marco

[rollo]

Thanks Rollo,
the thing is that since this is my yet-to-be-delivered first audio system, I actually don't have any idea on what kind of sound I will get in reality. For this reason I'm wondering which cables to get for them to be a good match with the rest of components. Basing on what you said, and the components I choose (warm CD player with tubes output stage, transparent passive pre TVC ref., powerful Odyssey Stratos extreme full upgraded and revealing speakers such as VMPS RM30M) I might get a bright, clear and powerful sound, with good bass slightly below 30Hz and detailed sound (not too harsh or forwarding), with body. This is what I assume basing on the reviews and comments on the gear I choose. After than that, the suggestion to stay with Anti cable all over is quite clear, I still don't know if I could try silver (will I be able to note the possible difference in sound??)..the all copper, Anti Cables IC and power seems to be the definitive solution?..
Thanks,
Marco

Marco,
 you will hear a difference in character between copper and silver.With the Stratos and VMPS I would suggest copper.If you can afford both at this time buy them and compare you have a 30 day money back guar.
The reason I suggest both is the program material YOU listen may determine the final choice,ther is NO OTHER WAY of knowing.
    rollo

[woodsyi]

Marco,

Stay with copper for now.  SS amp and Neos are better with copper.  I use silver but use tube amp.  I can lend you a silver for you to try after you get your system in. 

[Pacio]

Woodsyi, thank you for your involvement.
Funny thing, I wanted to have a look at your system and I noticed that you have a North Star pair..I'm going to get a pretty new-used North Star CD transport and DAC 192 from an italian guy..I was going for a Ah! Njoe Tjoeb CD player with tubes output stage but I got the chance to get this combo, and I definitely prefer the italian duo..please let me have your comments, even if you had them modded. I truly hope that it will match well with my next-to-come-already-ordered TVC reference from Nicholas, the Stratos Extreme and the RM30M..
I think I will go for the Anti-cables everywhere (copper)..
Marco

Rollo,
thank you so much for your advice, it makes sense. I don't know if I could buy both but if not - as I already said - I will stay with copper definitely.
Thank you all for your precious help.
Marco

[woodsyi]

Marco,

I had my Northstar combo modded by Steve Nugent at Empirical Audio.  The stock unit was good but much better after the mod.  I also have a I2S Off Ramp specifically made for the Northstar unit.  I can't say how it will mate with your TVC preamp, but it works very well with either of my Modwright or Von Gaylord preamps.  Northstar combo works well with VMPS speakers in that it really shines in clear and smooth presentation.  The speakers will really show off the capability of the Northstar combo.  I tried a Paradisea tube buffered DAC with the Northstar transport and the sound was very good but I liked the 192 Dac better.  Let me know how your system works when you put everything together.