Using an IC as a digital cable

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pugs

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Using an IC as a digital cable
« on: 18 Dec 2006, 11:04 pm »
I was just wondering if using an IC as a digital cable is not a good idea.  I am using two Silver Audio silver bullets IC's as the digital connections from my SB3 to Behringer and Behringer to Ack! DAC.  Is the fact that they are not 75 Ohm have an adverse affect on the sound?

RH Customs

Re: Using an IC as a digital cable
« Reply #1 on: 20 Dec 2006, 05:05 pm »
This will and will not work. Stnadard IC uses stranded wire conductors, a digital coax uses a solid center conductor and a outer foil shield. That is why a standard IC will not work, the ground is not used in the same way.

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PhilNYC

Re: Using an IC as a digital cable
« Reply #2 on: 20 Dec 2006, 05:06 pm »
This will and will not work. Stnadard IC uses stranded wire conductors, a digital coax uses a solid center conductor and a outer foil shield. That is why a standard IC will not work, the ground is not used in the same way.

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Audience uses the exact same cable for their ICs and digital ICs.  I'm pretty sure there are a few other companies that do, too..fwiw...

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Re: Using an IC as a digital cable
« Reply #3 on: 20 Dec 2006, 05:07 pm »
That might be true, he just did not specify if it was a coaxial IC.

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Re: Using an IC as a digital cable
« Reply #4 on: 20 Dec 2006, 05:09 pm »
Audience uses the exact same cable for their ICs and digital ICs.  I'm pretty sure there are a few other companies that do, too..fwiw...

Apogee does this too with their Wyde Eye cables...


95bcwh

Re: Using an IC as a digital cable
« Reply #5 on: 20 Dec 2006, 05:34 pm »
VH audio Pulsar can be used as both analog IC and digital IC

I have been testing the Electra cables from GR Research, I use it both as analog IC and digital IC - no problem what so ever.

Wayner

Re: Using an IC as a digital cable
« Reply #6 on: 20 Dec 2006, 10:39 pm »
Computers use stranded wire to pass all of their digital information. No fancy "solid core" wire is required. It should have a good foil or braided shield.  8)

Carlman

Re: Using an IC as a digital cable
« Reply #7 on: 20 Dec 2006, 10:48 pm »
Most digital ic's are not 75ohm since the RCA connectors aren't 75... so, a regular IC works fine for a digital IC in my experience.
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toobluvr

Re: Using an IC as a digital cable
« Reply #8 on: 20 Dec 2006, 11:17 pm »

I have been testing the Electra cables from GR Research, I use it both as analog IC and digital IC - no problem what so ever.

I know Danny says the Electra works fine as a digital cable, but in my setup, I'm not finding it to be the case.  On my Paradisea DAC I find it veiled and lacking in immediacy and presence.  Music is just kindof uninspired and boring.   Maybe more burn-in is needed!

 :peek:        :dunno:       :lol:

By comparison, my Nordost Silver Shadow is much better as a digital cable.  It passes more information, and really fires up the music and makes it exciting.

Having said that, the Electra seems to work fine as a normal analog i/c in my system.


pugs

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Re: Using an IC as a digital cable
« Reply #9 on: 21 Dec 2006, 12:39 am »
I searched through some old posts and I read that the input impedance of the Behringer DEQ2496 is 110 Ohms.  If that's the case, should I use an IC from my SB3 to Behringer, then a digital cable to Ack!

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Re: Using an IC as a digital cable
« Reply #10 on: 21 Dec 2006, 12:40 pm »
I searched through some old posts and I read that the input impedance of the Behringer DEQ2496 is 110 Ohms.  If that's the case, should I use an IC from my SB3 to Behringer, then a digital cable to Ack!

The DEQ2496 uses either toslink (optical) or AES/EBU digital inputs....and AES/EBU is spec'd as 110ohms using an XLR connector.  So to go from your SB3 to DEQ2496, I suspect you'll have to use toslink....

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Re: Using an IC as a digital cable
« Reply #11 on: 21 Dec 2006, 02:49 pm »
You can get transformers for 75:110 (BNC-XLR) from http://www.markertek.com/SearchProduct.asp?item=AESEBU1&off=0&sort=prod

They don't ALWAYS work due to slight format differences, but I've used them with the behringers.