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The main problem is that in the absence of an objective standard snake oil and scams tend to thrive. Whenever something cannot be quantified it opens up the field for snake-oil and those less savory individuals and companies willing to exploit people. It opens up wild claims with little to support them. That is pretty much the atmosphere we have in high-end audio these days. That type of atmosphere doesn't lend itself to improving products. It doesn't lend itself to the advancement of the art
Perhaps in the future we will all have audio systems which are tailor-made to account for our individual hearing characteristics. These flexible systems would operate like a super preamp. that outputs a subjective signal that would adjust the sound quality so that our unique hearing would more closely conform to "objective" audio reality. This would be similar to how hearing aides are designed now. Maybe this would satisfy both the number crunchers and the more artistically inclined subjectivists. Raja
I know one thing for sure. Your avatar kills me everytime I see it. That cat is a rockin' !
i think its funny that the poster asked a question of "non-believers" but most of the posts are from people defending breakin theory.
VI have purchased almost all my equipment either manufactured, or modded by folks here on AC. I have an SB3 modded by Wayne at Bolder, an amp manufactured by Vinnie at Red Wine Audio, and speakers by Louis at Omega. These guys have two things in common. First, they and their work are very well respected on these pages, and second, they all claim that their products require burn-in time to sound their best.
I have purchased almost all my equipment either manufactured, or modded by folks here on AC. I have an SB3 modded by Wayne at Bolder, an amp manufactured by Vinnie at Red Wine Audio, and speakers by Louis at Omega. These guys have two things in common. First, they and their work are very well respected on these pages, and second, they all claim that their products require burn-in time to sound their best. Do the non-believers mean to imply that these guys are charlatans...that they prey off of simpleton audiophiles? If this is the case, will a non-believer please call these guys out and expose them for the carpetbaggers they are? For the sake of science, damn it!
Banquer, you wouldn't know a piece of test equipment if it fell on your head. Who do you think you are, spoutin all that eeeelectrical junk??HMM??Don't you have better things to do with your life??? (like e-mailin your friends to let them know how you're doing???)Sup, Dan? Hope all is well. Hope ya had a good turkey day.Hmmm..wires..Wires don't burn in. Your ears do...actually, the brain does..localization re-learning takes time, especially with artificially generated localization cues typical of the recording process..We hear ITD to 2 uSec, and IID down to about .5 dB.(I suspect smaller, but no proof yet..Cheers, John
Hey objectivists!If all it comes down to is specs, measurements and numbers, may I suggest that on your next visit to your local audio shop to audition gear that you leave your ears at home and bring nothing but scientific measureing devices. I'm sure you will assemble a very satisfying system!
But heck; what do I know, I'm just another stupid ignorant objectivist. d.b.