[texasphile]

Hi folks,

I posted my quickie review of the LS-6 on the av123 portion of the audiocircle. 

The link is:   http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=33568.0

Regards,

Chris

[playntheblues]

Danny jump in here and let us know what you think compaired to your ob speakers etc.  (for those of us waiting for a set)  Thanks,Guy

[Rocket_Ronny]

I'll double Playingthe blues, and raise you five.

My guess is that the LS are going to have a lower cossover point around 1 khz, therefore a bit more resolution and speed in the 1-2 k range over the obs.

Also, the woofs used will have a bit more resolution and play way lower. Probably in the 30's.

They will have greater macro dynamics.

Other than that the OB's will nip at their heals at a fraction of the cost and build time.

Oh ya, my wife will live with the OB 5's much easier than any LS.

Also, in my situation, I have to move the speakers for serious listening. A lot easier to move the OB 5 than a LS.

Rocket_Ronny

[phoenix_rising]

From previos poss Danny said that the LS will go to the low 20's. They will handle synamics much better than the OB5 or OB7. Besides adding that extra something to music due to teh very wide dynamic range it should be an absolute killer in a home theater.

[Brucemck]

"Danny jump in here and let us know what you think compaired to your ob speakers etc.  (for those of us waiting for a set)  Thanks,Guy"

Danny, comparison between OBs and new line arrays?

[Rocket_Ronny]

I talked with Danny about the differences.

They share the same sort of sonic window.

OB's may be slightly ahead in the mids with them being boxless.

Where the line source pulls ahead, if you have a big room and can sit far enough away, is that of lower distortion, the OB's seem pretty low to me, and of the LS to reproduce a square wave.

In that, if a drum is struck both will give you the effect, but the LS will make you feel it more. It will seem a bit more real.

The LS also play louder, with more dynamic headroom.

Myself, I don't want tall monsters in my room. I lived with very tall speakers, the Acoustat 1+1's are almost 8' tall. The OB's are easy to live with.

But if you are hard core, have the room, want the macho presence of a line array, you will have something very special.

Rocket_Ronny

[vegas]

From previos poss Danny said that the LS will go to the low 20's. They will handle synamics much better than the OB5 or OB7. Besides adding that extra something to music due to teh very wide dynamic range it should be an absolute killer in a home theater.

Line sources with great drivers and excellent crossovers will kill.  Their lack of distortion and dynamic capability  make other speakers sound muted.  Jeff G. from Sonic Craft (whom I have great respect for) was in the process of building a line array product in 2004.  The project failed due to investor issues, but the info Jeff shared with me on the prototypes he had built indicated they seriously killed anything else he had listened to.  Jeff G had been the modifier of Newform Research speakers (upgrading the 645's to various upgrade options KSU1's, 2's, 3's, and custom mods beyond these that he had completed for certain customers).  Again he said the Newforms even at super modified levels sounded broken compared to the Line Source prototypes he had built.  I had been seriously interested in buying the line sources from Jeff and now am interested to hear more about the specs on the Danny's LS (especially efficiency to see what amp options might arise).

Vegas.

[phoenix_rising]

"Line sources with great drivers and excellent crossovers will kill."

You got that right. Because the load is distributed over so many speakers the amount of movement for each speaker is minimal always making sure the cone is well centred in the gap and as a result it significantly reduces distortion and increases the dynamic handling capacity. That is always the trouble I find with other speakers, they do not sound real because they compress the sound when any dynamic passages come along, in comparison to a line array they just do not cut it. IMHO. Line Arrays are big, heavy and ugly but sound 'real'.

[Milehighguy]

I have a few questions about the height of the ls6. With a line source, you have very limited vertical dispersion of high frequencies, such that if your ear is higher than the top tweeter, the highs drop off quickly. So my question is, given that my ear is 5'6" from the floor (I'm 5'10") or 66", and it appears that the top of the top tweeter is probably about the same height, will I be in the "sweet spot" or above it? How about my friend who is 6'4"? What is the height where the highs start to drop out?
I guess that leads to another question. What is the low point of the sweet spot, below which highs drop off ?

[Danny Richie]

Jack, with the LS-6 you'll need to have a seat.

If you need or want a taller vertical sweet spot then go with the LS-9. With base it will be about 6' and 10" tall.

[TomS]

Danny,

I assume the ceiling height is less of an issue on the line source?  I have 92" in a 13x24 room.  Does this force one into the LS-6 over the LS-9?

Tom

[Danny Richie]

Ceiling height is less of an issue with the line sources.