recommendations for an anti-static mat

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hyimted

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recommendations for an anti-static mat
« on: 6 Nov 2006, 03:19 am »
hey all -

recently got some new toys (project debut 3, speedbox 2, adcom pre-tuner, onkyo power amp, etc ... mostly off of ebay) ... so now i have a decent 2-channel setup.

i'm enjoying my turntable, but i'm noticing quite a bit of static when i left my record off the platter... to the point when i can hear the static through my speakers. i have the discwasher system (also off of ebay) with the anti-static gun ... but i'm thinking maybe an anti-static mat of some sort may help even more?

so, just curious as to your thoughts and, if you feel i'm on the right track, can you recommend a particular mat to purchase?  also, does anyone know the *specific* instructions on how to use the zerostat gun?  i know you're supposed to pull the trigger slowly, but i'm not sure if i'm supposed to hold the gun at a fixed point on the vinyl, pull away the gun as i release the trigger, etc.

thx,

ted

Wayner

Re: recommendations for an anti-static mat
« Reply #1 on: 6 Nov 2006, 12:50 pm »
Do not use the Zero stat with the record on the turntable.

W

gooberdude

Re: recommendations for an anti-static mat
« Reply #2 on: 6 Nov 2006, 03:56 pm »
hey Hyimted,

You're problem can be solved quite easily, you need a Dustbug - NOT a zerostat.   I just bought one on ebay for $40 from the seller 'turntable toys'.   In order for it to work you must buy one with the ground cable, which will attach to the ground plug on your phono preamp or amp.  Or, get an all metal Dustbug (herein referred to as DB) and make your own ground cable.

I've owned the Ionoclast from mapleshade for years...its more effective and 1/2 the price of the Zerostat.  Cool thing is, now i only use the Ionoclast with cd's & dvd's whereas before the DB I pulled the trigger 5 or 6 times per side of the LP.     Both ionoclast & zerostat work off batteries that can't be replaced (i think) so the Dustbug is really welcome.   the DB also greatly improved the sound, but that's another story.   Wayner is right about the Zerostat...sparks can fly & you gotta be careful...not so with the DB.

I live up high in a tall bldg in chicago right on the water...have MAJOR static issues 7 months a year, er, i mean during the winter.    spinning vinyl has been a painful hobby the last few years...with the DB i'm looking forward to a chi-town winter.

TWEAKS:

For your speeedbox, pull the 2 tiny wires from the wallwart apart - gently.  you'll notice very, very good things happen.    Also, think about a fishing weight anti-skate thing tweak...i just did this to my Pro-Ject Expression and its a necessary tweak.   That dangly AS weight is attached to the tonearm base right?  Its a bad design, sends nasty vibes right into the tonearm.    I removed the dangly weight support pole and have taped it to the deck about 1 cm away, making certain to keep the right height & distance (dimensions) as stock..this is crucial.   The result is a massive separation of musicians. no more imaging right in the center between your speakers as the players are spread out throughout the stage shoulder to shoulder.

Our vinyl rigs are a tweakers delight.    feel free to e-mail me for pics of other crazy tweaks...our mid-fi tables can compete with the big boys...you just gotta ditch the anti-skate thing AND lose those 2 cent rubber feet.  3 maple blocks from mapleshade are an eye opener as non-suspended tt footers.

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hyimted

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Re: recommendations for an anti-static mat
« Reply #3 on: 6 Nov 2006, 05:24 pm »
gooberdude -

thanks for the reply and info ... i will definitely lookup that dustbag.  i like the idea of your tweaks too ... i will definitely be pursuing that avenue once i have a little more time to play with my system.  definitely enjoying getting back into vinyl!   :thumb:

gooberdude

Re: recommendations for an anti-static mat
« Reply #4 on: 6 Nov 2006, 06:18 pm »
Congrats on gettin' back in the swing.    aa    Your turntable will not be the weak link in any set-up you own into the future.

If you are still using the stock felt mat & want an upgrade, Herbie's Way Excellent mat seems to be a good match for our platters.  I won't spin without it.   It cuts down on static, nothing at all like the grounded Dustbug though.

the directions for the ionoclast, similar to Zerostat, state to pull the trippger a few times then waive the gun over vinyl like a magician for a few seconds.
From my experience, no anti-static gun on the planet will remove the static long enough to prove usefull for vinyl play.  Initially you remove the static, but by the end of one sides play its all back in force.   the Dustbug eliminates this and speeds up vinyl play (no more pulling the trigger, which is great since that's the one thing my friends rag on me for!).

Save the Zerostat for de-static'ing your cd's & dvd's...makes a big diff & prolongs the life of the drives (maybe) since less static is going in.  It also works when pulling a fresh load from the dryer in the winter...a few pulls and my socks don't stick to the sheets...

Last, but certainly not least, clean vinyl & a clean stylus are crucial.  Not for sound quality but to ensure you aren't damaging your LP's or cartridges.  they do really help SQ, but that's secondary.   Purchase a box of Mr. Clean magic erasers and a few 30 cent artists paint brushes from a hardware or craft store.   cut off a tiny corner of the ME, shish ka bob it to a toothpick and use this before & after each night of play - being really careful to go from back to front (same way the stylus suspension works).  It will keep your diamond shiny, sharp and sparkling - making its useful life a LOT longer.  Even with clean LP's, lots of stuff collects on the diamond tip as it plays...and the diamond tip gets quite hot due to friction, and nasty crap adhere's to it easily.   Be sure to brush the tip with the artists brush after every ME cleaning...don't want tiny abrasives gettin ground into the grooves. keep the ME corner & brushes (cut off handle so brush is 2" long) in a little ziploc dime bag - don't get them dirty in other words.  Also, do not waste your $ on the Zero Dust or Xtreme phono gel...i have both and am selling them.  $1 worth of ME & a tiny brush is all you'll ever need.  LOTS of info about the ME on audioasuylum, in the vinyl asylum. 

vinyl tends to become a folly of silly steps and unnecessary's if you aren't careful...keep it simple & do it right though, and you'll enjoy the effort & investment a whole lot more.   

If i were doing this over again, i'd get the anti-skate weight moved & get the Dustbug first, then move forward.   Also, be sure that the tt cover is off when playing & even try removing the hinges altogether and then secure the cover at night with 2 small pieces of tape.  Removing unnecessary things screwed into your tt gives big increases in dynamics.    One way our tables are made affordable is the MDF plinth & 2 cent rubber feet.  Lots of things can be done to combat issues with the basic design - and can be put back on when you sell.


GD