Info about the Richard Gray Power Co

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Spirit

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Info about the Richard Gray Power Co
« on: 6 Oct 2006, 12:04 am »
Would like to learn about this comapny's products.
Does anyone own any of their power gear and if so comments
pro and con would be appreciated.

Levi

Re: Info about the Richard Gray Power Co
« Reply #1 on: 6 Oct 2006, 12:32 am »
I have two RGPC 400s.  I have it connected piggy back and it makes a huge difference in video quality.  Works good with audio as well.  No cons so far after 2+years of using.  :thumb:

Spirit

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Re: Info about the Richard Gray Power Co
« Reply #2 on: 6 Oct 2006, 01:57 am »
I have two RGPC 400s.  I have it connected piggy back and it makes a huge difference in video quality.  Works good with audio as well.  No cons so far after 2+years of using.  :thumb:
I assume by piggy back you mean plugged into each other.
Why do you need 2 units?

Levi

Re: Info about the Richard Gray Power Co
« Reply #3 on: 6 Oct 2006, 02:03 am »
They are plugged into each other.  You can start with just one unit.  If you are happy with one, you can buy another one more.  After two I think there will be some diminishing returns.

budyog

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Re: Info about the Richard Gray Power Co
« Reply #4 on: 9 Oct 2006, 07:02 pm »
Hi Spirit,
 I also own 2 of the 400s. They have been in my system for a couple of years now. All I can remember is a very dear longtime audio friend of mine kept bugging me saying, you need to get one or more of these for your system. After a couple of years of hearing that and having a very hard time believing that something in the AC power area could make my system sound better, I finally broke down and got one off Audiogone. Well I am now a believer! :D I could not believe the difference it made with the whole overall sound of my system. I was so impressed that as soon as I had the money and saw another one on Audiogone, I bought it. I have them plugged in separately to the same 20 amp circuit.
As far as how to describe what they do is the best way I can put it is it seems like they open everything up. All my equipment sounds richer, deeper, wider and taller. I do not know any other way to describe it. It has been so long and I won't take them out! His site says the to achieve the best you need 3 of them. Someday I will buy the third one. I would not be without them.
Keep us posted with your thoughts if you get one or more.
« Last Edit: 13 Oct 2006, 04:08 am by budyog »

oscar

Re: Info about the Richard Gray Power Co
« Reply #5 on: 13 Oct 2006, 03:44 am »
I auditioned a RGPC in the home for a week.  At first I was satisfied with the seemingly lower noise floor/"blacker" background. But.... eventually I noticed the RGPC tended to reduce dynamics. For this reason I returned the unit to the chagrin of the would-be retailer.

I've heard it's useful for video, but anywhere where audio signal amplification is occuring (source, preamp, amp), I'd be worried about possible impacts on transient responses (e.g. drumbeats).

budyog

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Re: Info about the Richard Gray Power Co
« Reply #6 on: 13 Oct 2006, 04:07 am »
Then come on over and here my system! I think it will change your mind. :icon_twisted:

Levi

Re: Info about the Richard Gray Power Co
« Reply #7 on: 13 Oct 2006, 04:15 am »
I don't hear reduced dynamics with RGPC in my system aswell.  :banana piano:

darkmoebius

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Re: Info about the Richard Gray Power Co
« Reply #8 on: 25 Oct 2006, 03:17 am »
I auditioned a RGPC in the home for a week.  At first I was satisfied with the seemingly lower noise floor/"blacker" background. But.... eventually I noticed the RGPC tended to reduce dynamics. For this reason I returned the unit to the chagrin of the would-be retailer.

Which RGPC model did you use? Also, what's the total current draw of your amplifier(wpc)?

I have a pretty annoying 60/120Hz hum in my AC supply. he hum was never noticeable when I had my solid state amp and 90dB speakers. But, when I swithced to my 97dB system with low power SET amps, it was really annoying. The hum was slightly audible from my listening position 12+ feet away when no music was on. Just knowing it was there after all I'd spent on my system, drove me nuts. I tried regrounding my circuit breaker line to my copper water line, but no luck. I checked and regrounded every outlet in my living room, also.

A good friend(and audio dealer) loaned me the RGPC Pole Pig and a 400 unit to try out. I plugged the Pole Pig into the wall and the 400 unit into the Pole Pig. Amps got plugged into the 400 unit and sources the Pole Pig. Luckily, my low power SET amps draw less ~120 watts at idle according to both manufacturers. (class A/SET amps draw same power at idle as full power)

I got an immediate huge difference in my system performance. You'll never know how much noise is in your AC line until it is gone. Now I understand the saying "black background" because that's exactly what I got. Notes, tones, individual instruments were so much more clearly defined - it was amazing. Decay and shimmer of cymbals was truly spectacular. I had no idea of my system's ultimate resolution until the RGPC system was inserted. As Steven Tyler sang "You ain't seen nothin' til your down on the muffin and shore to changin' your way".

Having said all that, I couldn't justify the cost of the RGPC system and ended up buying 6 surplus industrial Topaz 2.4kVA Ultra-Isolator transformers for less than 1/3 the price and wired them all in fully balanced configuration(halves the rating) providing 120dB common mode noise rejection apiece. I use one for each monoblock and one for my sources. Each source outlet has it's own filter to prevent noise crosstalk. I keep the other trannis in reserve in case I make the move back to high power amps.

And now, I've got the same "black background" for a few hundred bucks instead of $2,000. They may not look as good as the RGPC units, but in my system they work just as well.



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