Reality Cables vs Anti-Cables

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launche

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Reality Cables vs Anti-Cables
« on: 1 Oct 2006, 09:03 pm »
Anyone have experience with both of these cables, especially at the same time.  I know the Reality Cables have many fans here and the Anti-Cables have also been well received and considered a best bang for the buck cable.  I have them both and was just wondering what others have gathered durng their evaluations.  I'll try to do some comparitive listening today.

I will say that the pepto-bismol color of the Reality Cables doesn't stroke my man-jo.

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gstraley

Re: Reality Cables vs Anti-Cables
« Reply #1 on: 1 Oct 2006, 09:52 pm »
My cables are available with a white and black sleeving if you are not fond of the color. You give up sonics when you put the black sleeving over it. Not to mention that you are also giving up money for the looks.
   I have heard a direct comparison in MarkR's system. Not for me to comment since you might thing that I would have a bias. Maybe MarkR will comment on his impressions.

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Re: Reality Cables vs Anti-Cables
« Reply #2 on: 1 Oct 2006, 10:26 pm »
My cables are available with a white and black sleeving if you are not fond of the color. You give up sonics when you put the black sleeving over it. Not to mention that you are also giving up money for the looks.
 

Out of curiosity when you say giving up sonics, can you explain what that means.  Are we talking a loss of detail, a loss of transparency, rolled off highs ???

By the way, I enjoy your product very much and I'm giving thought to your IC's.

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Re: Reality Cables vs Anti-Cables
« Reply #3 on: 1 Oct 2006, 10:35 pm »
Have you read this........posted by Carlman.... :thumb:

launche

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Re: Reality Cables vs Anti-Cables
« Reply #4 on: 1 Oct 2006, 11:10 pm »
Thanks Lonewolfny42,

I can always count on you for an appropriate link.

I read the thread, Carlsman had some comparisions lined up between the Reality, Anti-cables and others but maybe wasn't able to conduct them etc...

I did see mention for an occurence that I did notice in terms of the volume difference between the Reality cables and others.  I too notice the volume level decrease when switching from the Anti-cables to the Reality cables thus that led to the initial perception of the anti-cables being more open or transparent.  it's still early in my listening but the Anti-cables do seem to be a bit more transparent or open, I tried to get the meter out but could detect little measureable difference in loudness.  The Reality cables appear to sound warmer with a fuller midbass.
My intial thought comparisions remind me of the general: copper vs silver sound presentation. I'll keep listening.

Hopefully Carlsman will post his thoughts.


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Re: Reality Cables vs Anti-Cables
« Reply #5 on: 1 Oct 2006, 11:27 pm »
Well....your doing things the right way 8)....comparing them in your system...and listening. Pick what moves you....

I'll send a PM to Carl to chime in on what he heard. I also own the Reality Cables SC's....I like them (worked well with my Butler amps). I've not tried the Anti-Cables SC's..... 
                                  Chris

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Re: Reality Cables vs Anti-Cables
« Reply #6 on: 2 Oct 2006, 02:28 pm »
Unfortunately, it's been too long and I've had too many system changes to speculate what a direct comparison would sound like in my current system.  The Reality Cables get out of their own way and any changes I make upstream are readily heard so, I'm still quite pleased with them.
BTW, I'm out of town for a while so, I won't be around much for the next couple of weeks.
-Carl

MarkR7

Re: Reality Cables vs Anti-Cables
« Reply #7 on: 2 Oct 2006, 05:42 pm »
I was running the Anti-cable speaker cable in my system when Greg brought his Reality speaker cables over to my house.  I ended up buying the Reality cables on the spot, they were that good.  Nothing wrong with the Anti-cables mind you, as they displaced Purist Audio Venustas, Audience AU24s and Cardas Golden Reference in my system.

In my system, the Reality cables form a better, deeper soundstage, are a little faster, and have better extension on both ends as compared to the Anti-cables.  The Reality cables seemed to lift a slight veil that I didn't know was there with the Anti-cables.  I have no interest in removing the Reality speaker cables since they serve my music "right"!

In my system, I thought the Reality speaker cables are more open and transparent!
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robert1325

Re: Reality Cables vs Anti-Cables
« Reply #8 on: 2 Oct 2006, 06:56 pm »
I'm planning on buying some anti-cables in the near future, my speakers need Bi-wire, so the Anti-cable is much cheaper for me,   I'm going to buy them by the foot and connect them bare-wire...   

RH Customs

Re: Reality Cables vs Anti-Cables
« Reply #9 on: 3 Oct 2006, 01:23 am »
I do not like the Anti's, very dull and just boring on all aspects of tonal range.

RH

robert1325

Re: Reality Cables vs Anti-Cables
« Reply #10 on: 4 Oct 2006, 08:49 pm »
reality cables are more expensive than anti-cables when you connect the anti-cable bare-wire...  especially when Bi-wiring...     I'm selling my cd player first , I'll get them soon.

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Re: Reality Cables vs Anti-Cables
« Reply #11 on: 4 Oct 2006, 09:08 pm »
I do not like the Anti's, very dull and just boring on all aspects of tonal range.

RH

LOL.....You're smacking a competitors product, that won't win you many friends  :shake:

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Re: Reality Cables vs Anti-Cables
« Reply #12 on: 4 Oct 2006, 09:54 pm »
Not really, It is just my opinion after testing versus MIT's , also keep in mind cables very in each system. And just to re-state it is just my opinion. Also if it makes any difference the Anti's that I heard were sent off to be cryo'ed. I'm not sure if that had to do with the sound. I would never out right say harsh things about a cable in general, I just think sending the cables off to be cryo'ed is not a good idea for the Anti's.


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Re: Reality Cables vs Anti-Cables
« Reply #13 on: 4 Oct 2006, 10:04 pm »
RH, thanks for clarifying your earlier assessment of the Anti-cables.  The comparision to another cable and the cryo treatment help to put things in better context.

RH Customs

Re: Reality Cables vs Anti-Cables
« Reply #14 on: 4 Oct 2006, 10:07 pm »
I just wanted to clarify and not start any flame wars. I think that since there is not standard insulation like a stander cable, the cryo process destoryed the integrity of the cable, at least in the this case.

RH

TheChairGuy

Re: Reality Cables vs Anti-Cables
« Reply #15 on: 4 Oct 2006, 11:17 pm »
I've listened to 12ga cryo'ed and 13ga non-cryo'ed version of solid core magnet wire (which is what the Anti-Cables are) and thought they both weren't great.  The 13ga ones were nominally better...tho not sure if the smaller gauge or the non-cryo'ed state was the culprit.

Overall, I like multi-stranded speaker cable...but have found the (solid core) Alpha-Core MI-2 to be the only speaker cable that did least harm and was a notable upgrade from any other I tried. In fact, the only one I'd use the term 'upgrade' insofar as speaker cables are conerned.  I cryo'ed them but didn't notice a benefit (or downside other than $35 cost) to doing so.

I think Carlman termed it right long ago as he said they went 'blat' when yo ulistend to them.  They did - nothing but blat, blat, blat they went.

Greg's Reality Cables (I think) are a unique twist on a THHN recipe that he has honed and refined thru great trial and error. I used a THHN 6 ga. cord on my subwoofer amp and it was superb (the best in that type of use), but was horrible as a mains speakers cable.  The THHN's are best in multiple runs of smaller gauge runs....probably what Greg found over time.  There is more than a little speculation here as I have never tried them, nor visited his site in several months.