OK,after alot of tire kickin' and lookin' through windows,i took a big Juicy bite on a BB-X with a little cream on the side.now i really need a TT.will look on the used market .don't even know where to start there???? will see if vinyl is final.....thks guys for the help Pat 
PS:Mark at Juicy is a good guy....
Mark is a GREAT guy.
I've had nothing but positive experiences in my dealings with him.
Hey Pat...welcome to the 'berry patch!
Let us know how it works for ya.
John
PS: Haven't tried out a MC yet with mine, but Mark tells me the Ortofon
Kontrapunkt B is incredibly synergistic with the Cream.
