dedicated ac line wire recomendations

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dedicated ac line wire recomendations
« on: 1 Sep 2006, 10:34 pm »
any suggestions on what wire to use from the panel to the outlets that wont break the bank plastic pipe and single wire or  romex?  brand type ect my electrician works for beer and steaks so that's not a problem. I need to go about 30 feet.. figured i would put two circits in with two outlets on each circut

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Re: dedicated ac line wire recomendations
« Reply #1 on: 1 Sep 2006, 10:54 pm »
1. Use 12 gauge Romex:
    a. Anything heavier is too hard to work with.
    b. 12 gauge wiring supports 20 amp wall receptacles.
    c. 14 gauge (supports 15 amp receptacles) would work, but way not splurge?
    d. BTW don't bother buying heavier gauge power cords than the wiring in the wall

2.  User plastic electrical boxes

3.  Ask him about running a separate ground for the audio system.  Some swear at the idea, but that's what I've got and it works great.  I've got a dedicated man room (audio/office) in a new build with it's own underground service/transformer, all new appliances, in the country with no industry nearby, and the above wiring scheme plus hospital grade cryo'd Hubbell receptacles.

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Re: dedicated ac line wire recomendations
« Reply #2 on: 1 Sep 2006, 11:22 pm »
any suggestions on what wire to use from the panel to the outlets that wont break the bank plastic pipe and single wire or  romex?  brand type ect my electrician works for beer and steaks so that's not a problem. I need to go about 30 feet.. figured i would put two circits in with two outlets on each circut

I used 12 guage romex and Porter outlets to do just that.  I didn't run separate gound.  I just made sure the two circuits were same phase -- opposite or alternating slots on the panel.  I also put in a Zero Surge panel unit PM20-240 for surge protection.  Works great.

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Re: dedicated ac line wire recomendations
« Reply #3 on: 2 Sep 2006, 12:04 am »
12 gauge romex is what the NEC recommends for 20 amp lines. It costs very little more than 14 gauge so it's a no brainer.  IF you want decent outlets that are cheap just get some Pass and Seymour commercial grade. These are only a few bucks a piece and hold the plug well. 

If you can get the two lines on the same phase opposite noise producing items with motors such as furnaces, refridgerators, washers etc that would be good.  Motors send alot of noise into the line. You can ask your friend to switch things around a bit possibly too. That's what I did. I have no noise producing crap on the same phase as the lines in my room. It only takes a little while to do too. 

One thing that wouldn't hurt is to run 3 20 amp lines.  Get yourself a 100' roll of 12ga Romex and you should have enough for three lines assuming your measurement of 30 feet included bends and turns.

A circuit breaker box is a dangerous place so please be careful!

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Re: dedicated ac line wire recomendations
« Reply #4 on: 2 Sep 2006, 12:24 am »
12 Ga Romex.  That's what I installed for on my dedicated 20amp audio only power source.  The rest of the budget, I would spend it on a good powerline conditioner. 

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Re: dedicated ac line wire recomendations
« Reply #5 on: 2 Sep 2006, 01:26 am »
i thought i would use Pass & Seymour 5262-Aw outlets
12 Ga Romex.  That's what I installed for on my dedicated 20amp audio only power source.  The rest of the budget, I would spend it on a good powerline conditioner.

the rest of the budget went on a tanzanite kit from selah audio need to move my system to better place the speakers. I had not thought about the same phase thing but that makes sense