George's SS Amps

G Georgopoulos · « **on:** 21 Aug 2006, 02:46 am »

Hi
tubes vs solidstate
which is best?
i know tubes are really good, easy to setup ,lots of warm sound, but solidstate has been
given a bad name because it represends the broader spectrum

GGA has revolutionised solidstate not only it sounds like tube if desired, but also can sound
distinctively new

let the discussion begin tube vs solidstate

cheers

PhilNYC · « **Reply #1 on:** 21 Aug 2006, 02:53 am »

I prefer hybrids...

arthurs · « **Reply #2 on:** 21 Aug 2006, 03:03 am »

yawn....I prefer hybrids as well.....

G Georgopoulos · « **Reply #3 on:** 21 Aug 2006, 03:10 am »

come on guys you cant sit on the fence on this
we must discuss the tonal qualities of modern hifi valve vs solidstate
and why for many audiophiles and musicians an audio valve amp still is regarded highly
compared to solid state one

PhilNYC · « **Reply #4 on:** 21 Aug 2006, 03:17 am »

Hybrid amps are available and a real option, so why can't we choose them?

If it makes you happy, I'll say that I have a strong preference for the warmth and harmonic richness conveyed by tubed gear, and the speed and impact of solid state gear. Have found that a high quality hybrid amp can provide me with enough richness and speed to not leave me wanting (my own personal preference)...and that it has been a long time since I heard a system that did not have a tube somewhere in the chain that I found satisfying enough to live with for a long time...

DSK · « **Reply #5 on:** 21 Aug 2006, 03:18 am »

Quote from: G Georgopoulos on 21 Aug 2006, 02:46 am

Hi
tubes vs solidstate
which is best?
i know tubes are really good, easy to setup ,lots of warm sound, but solidstate has been
given a bad name because it represends the broader spectrum

GGA has revolutionised solidstate not only it sounds like tube if desired, but also can sound
distinctively new

let the discussion begin tube vs solidstate

cheers

Double yawn! What a ridiculous post. This topic has been done a million times in every audio forum there is. If you really want to learn something, do some searches first. Hopefully you will learn enough to narrow your thread down to something that may generate useful discussion. As it stands, it is hopelessly broad. Besides ...what is 'best' and who says so? It is different for everyone depending on their personal tastes and circumstances.

Your assumptions of "lots of warm sound" and "solidstate has been given a bad name because it represends the broader spectrum" are also sweeping generalisations that are not always true.

launche · « **Reply #6 on:** 21 Aug 2006, 03:19 am »

I just wish I had access to more gear such as Phil etc... Having only heard two hybrid products. As I sit hear listening to a tube and hybrid product, I am more drawn to the tubed gear for its more convincing midrange presentation.

arthurs · « **Reply #7 on:** 21 Aug 2006, 03:25 am »

what gear are you listening to launche?

G Georgopoulos · « **Reply #8 on:** 21 Aug 2006, 03:29 am »

guys i dont think a hybrid product could be the solution.

today the tube amp is very tonal than ever before given the fact there is so much
high quality peripheral components such as high-end sources and loudspeakers is this
what makes it appeal to most audiophiles the fact that enables the valves/tubes to
come into their own center stage as far as tonal quality is concerned

Occam · « **Reply #9 on:** 21 Aug 2006, 03:30 am »

Trolling, trolling over the bounding main....

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GGA has revolutionised solidstate not only it sounds like tube if desired, but also can sound distinctively new

launche · « **Reply #10 on:** 21 Aug 2006, 03:31 am »

Butler 2250 and my trusty Cayin 688 Intergrated.
Should I mention that I am slightly intoxicated via some Sutter Home Moscato

and shouldn't even be drinking and typing.

arthurs · « **Reply #11 on:** 21 Aug 2006, 03:41 am »

Nothing wrong with a listening session a bit toasted! Cheers friend, have a great evening listening and sipping, er gulping...

PhilNYC · « **Reply #12 on:** 21 Aug 2006, 03:54 am »

Quote from: G Georgopoulos on 21 Aug 2006, 03:29 am

guys i dont think a hybrid product could be the solution.

Why not? Companies such as Blue Circle, Lamm Industries, AVA, and others offer hybrid products that many consider to be among the best products in their respective price ranges.

PaulFolbrecht · « **Reply #13 on:** 21 Aug 2006, 04:05 am »

People, who is this GCA dude anyway? He is apparantly a producer of amplifiers yet starts the most inane threads imaginable here, sounding like a 12 year-old who just discovered audio.

The moderators closed his last brilliant thread regarding the "best" source and I predict a similar fate for this one.

I'm sorry, George, if you're actually for real (not a troll) but if so you need to (1) Do a massive amount of reading before asking the most basic questions imaginable, (2) Learn that one truth in audio is that there's no "best" anything, especially in catagories as broad as you discuss, and (3) Quit shilling your own products here.

arthurs · « **Reply #14 on:** 21 Aug 2006, 04:05 am »

Well put Paul, good night all!

G Georgopoulos · « **Reply #15 on:** 21 Aug 2006, 06:53 am »

moderators please accept my appologies for not being as smart as some of these guys
and closed this thread down theres no point in further discussing this title subject which has been
attacked by the very begining posts, further discussing something is not gona hurt previous threads
all threads are different, i wanted to find out whats so special about valves and my few posts
have covered it i think the tonal and harmonic properties of tubes are notoriously known
what i still dont know is what you guys know about tubes that you regard them supreme

regards to all
G Georgopoulos

Occam · « **Reply #16 on:** 21 Aug 2006, 02:09 pm »

George,

I simply cannot fathom why you're getting your knickers in a twist over the admittedly hostile responses your posts have elicited.

Feel free to posit any question you like, but please be a bit more subtle. You pose this general question, and in that same post provide us the answer.

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GGA has revolutionised solidstate not only it sounds like tube if desired, but also can sound distinctively new

Its clear to me, and possibly others, that the initial question is rhetorical, as you claim to have the solution to whatever conflicts, tradeoffs, etc....

I'd actually like to learn more about your technology and claims. To be perfectly candide, we all want the best of all possible worlds. But the proper venue for you to do that is in the Industry Ads, until such time you may be provided your own vendor circle. Your posts elsewhere, when you have an obvious agenda, are going to elicit the same type of responses.

JoshK · « **Reply #17 on:** 21 Aug 2006, 02:21 pm »

Very well put Paul.

Carlman · « **Reply #18 on:** 21 Aug 2006, 02:27 pm »

OK, I'm moving this from 2-channel to Industry Ads. George, check your PM's. I question the sincerity of your apology.
-Carl

DTB300 · « **Reply #19 on:** 21 Aug 2006, 03:00 pm »

Went to the site listed on the Personal Information. Saw pictures of an amp with a very large logo on the front of it. I then wanted to view more informaiton so I tried all the links on the main page, and they all fail......