New AV series omni-surround. The AV-O.

mlpoteet · « **Reply #20 on:** 29 Sep 2006, 12:15 pm »

Hurry, hurry, hurry

Given space and WAF limitations, I can't build the AV3, the receiver can't handle 4 AV2s, and I want more than the AV1 for 50/50 music/HT in 5.1 set-up. These sound like the perfect solution. Can't wait to see the final product!!!

Mark

Danny Richie · « **Reply #21 on:** 29 Sep 2006, 01:27 pm »

Well Mark, they are finished. I just need to draw up the cabinet plans and wiring diagram and they are ready to go. I might be able to have all that completed by Monday.

klh · « **Reply #22 on:** 29 Sep 2006, 04:45 pm »

Danny,

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I do have some ideas for matching surrounds. I also have a large OB line source on the drawing board.

By line source (instead of line array) do you mean you'll have a line of the M-130X drivers and one Neo 3 or 8 PDR? The X version driver should work really well in open baffle array. Having a decent low end will really set you apart from your competition. Cudos if true.

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Next for me will be another omni but with the Neo 3 pdr. It will match the OB series speakers. I believe I will do this one with dual woofers to increase power handling and lower distortion. If it is anything like the AV-O then it will be killer.

How will you implement the second M-130?

Danny Richie · « **Reply #23 on:** 29 Sep 2006, 06:05 pm »

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By line source (instead of line array) do you mean you'll have a line of the M-130X drivers and one Neo 3 or 8 PDR? The X version driver should work really well in open baffle array. Having a decent low end will really set you apart from your competition. Cudos if true.

An array can mean a line of anything. A line of woofers and a tweeter can be an array. But a line source suggest line source propagation across the full audio spectrum. This means a line of woofers and tweeters.

What I have on the drawing board will be an open baffle line source capable of hitting a -3db down point in the teens.

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How will you implement the second M-130?

The front M-130 will play up to the range of the tweeter. The second woofer will be in series with the first woofer but use a series network allowing it to cover the lower ranges only and relieving the first woofer of half of its low frequency duty and thus lower distortion levels to the mid.

I already started cutting the wood.

It will be killer good.

klh · « **Reply #24 on:** 29 Sep 2006, 07:18 pm »

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-3db down point in the teens

Regarding the new omnipolar surround, I'm a little confused as the M-130 on the current one fires upwards and not forward. Don't bother responding as pictures will tell a 1,000 words

. Since the wood is already being cut I would hope preliminary pics will follow shortly.

Having a room with these and the OB 5/7 at the RMAF would be pretty cool!

Danny Richie · « **Reply #25 on:** 29 Sep 2006, 07:22 pm »

On the OD-3 (omin-directional) the two woofers will face up with a Neo 3 pdr on the narrow (7" wide) front baffle.

Yes, pics will follow and lots of info.

Thermopylae · « **Reply #26 on:** 29 Sep 2006, 07:50 pm »

Is there any chance a pre-built cabinet will be made available for these?

klh · « **Reply #27 on:** 29 Sep 2006, 07:53 pm »

When I did the acoustic treatments to my HT I did it specifically with the AV-O in mind... I may have to reconsider

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Danny Richie · « **Reply #28 on:** 29 Sep 2006, 08:29 pm »

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Is there any chance a pre-built cabinet will be made available for these?

I am sure that we can make them available one way or another. Both the A/V-0 and the OD-3 are very easy to build. I bet Raw Acoustics can knock a pair out pretty easy.

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When I did the acoustic treatments to my HT I did it specifically with the AV-O in mind... I may have to reconsider

If you have A/V series front speakers then the A/V-O is ideal for surrounds. Actually it is great for left and right mains too. In fact as a left and right main I feel comfortable putting it up against any two way speaker that you can come up with. It is really, really, good. Imaging and sound stage is unbelievable. Then make any other stand mounted book shelf style speaker sound small. The AV-O sounds like a big speaker.

If you are running OB series left and right mains then the new OD-3 might be just the ticket. This one is also going to be seriously good.

klh · « **Reply #29 on:** 29 Sep 2006, 11:12 pm »

I only have a 5.1 setup now, but I will definitely upgrade at some point. I'm thinking four OD-3s and a center channel that would work with the OD-3's as well as OB-5's would be a nice budget system. Having the potential to upgrade mains when the receiver or pre-pro get better would be a major plus.

Danny Richie · « **Reply #30 on:** 2 Oct 2006, 09:51 pm »

I am really pleased with the AV-O.

The price for the kit will be the same as the A/V-1 kit with the addition of some really nice Brass floor spikes. $249. for the kit and an additional $79. if you want a Sonicap upgrade.

I am still in shock as to how good these really sound. They sound way better than they have a right to. they certainly don't sound like a small speaker.

Veneer is on the way.

Doublej · « **Reply #31 on:** 2 Oct 2006, 11:56 pm »

SWEEEET. I can't wait to see them in a veneer and in the dual woofer configuration.

Is the tweeter somehow isolated from the woofer or can/would back pressure from the woofer possibly affect the tweeter?

klh · « **Reply #32 on:** 3 Oct 2006, 12:20 am »

What are the dimensions of the OD-3?

Danny Richie · « **Reply #33 on:** 3 Oct 2006, 02:18 am »

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Is the tweeter somehow isolated from the woofer or can/would back pressure from the woofer possibly affect the tweeter?

The back of the tweeter is sealed so it is unaffected by the woofer.

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What are the dimensions of the OD-3?

I think I am going to just call it the O-3. It is 36" tall, 7" wide, and 13.5" deep. I'll start a new thread on them. They're awesome.

See new O-3 thread: http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=32079.msg284494#msg284494

Thermopylae · « **Reply #34 on:** 6 Oct 2006, 12:31 am »

Danny- Do you have the cabinet plans for these yet? Also, will there be grills?

Danny Richie · « **Reply #35 on:** 6 Oct 2006, 01:08 am »

Sorry, I haven't drawn up cabinet plans yet. I have been too busy. They're pretty easy to build and won't take long to draw up the plans either.

they'll have grills if you make grills. Right now I have none to offer with the kit.

RAW · « **Reply #36 on:** 6 Oct 2006, 02:08 am »

Yes Danny has a sheet of Figured Cherry and Bubinga now heading to him.I will say the Figured Cherry looks very nice but the Bubinga is

Which do you think Danny should use for the AV-0 and which for the O-3

phoenix_rising · « **Reply #37 on:** 6 Oct 2006, 07:50 am »

Hi Danny,

Can you tell me what the -3db point of both omni-surround speakers is ?

Thanks

Danny Richie · « **Reply #38 on:** 6 Oct 2006, 02:19 pm »

-3db down point on both of these is right at 50Hz.

klh · « **Reply #39 on:** 6 Oct 2006, 04:24 pm »

Does the AV-O have more oomph in the 50-200 Hz range, or is it just less distortion?