why not an integrated?

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avadoro

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why not an integrated?
« on: 17 Aug 2006, 01:55 pm »
I would like to have a Van Alstine integrated, if it were to exist.
Reading this forum I could appreciate how Van Alstine owners are happy with their equipments!

I cannot buy separates is mainly for practical reasons: i haven't enough space for two different units.
Is it anyway planned the release of an integrated amp by AVA?

Thank you in advance!

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Re: why not an integrated?
« Reply #1 on: 18 Aug 2006, 03:27 pm »
Sorry, no plans for a new integrated amplifier at this time.  An Ultra hybrid integrated would have to pack so much stuff in a small box and be so expensive for the power rating that it would not be a practical product.  Even using our OmegaStar solid state circuits, the cost to really build it right in a small package would be as much as separates.  And in a small package, we cannot get the power or control flexibility we can with separates for the same price.

A good alternative would be one of our OmegaStar preamps matched with a smaller OmegaStar amplifier.  We often have OmegaStar 170EX amplifiers available built into the compact Dyna St-120 chassis which is space efficient.  Or an OmegaStar 250EX amplifier built into a good Hafler DH-200/220 chassis.  Both of these amplifiers are fairly small and easy to locate outside the main equipment stack.

Frank Van Alstine

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Re: why not an integrated?
« Reply #2 on: 18 Aug 2006, 05:31 pm »
I remember the 'integrated' that was offered in the 12' chassis...and yeah, the stuff was really shoe-horned in there  :).

I've often wondered, however, if the amplifier chassis would provide enough real estate for the Omega curcuits (both pre & power) seeing that it's 17x13x7. Maybe with a few less inputs, outputs, and no balance control?

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Re: why not an integrated?
« Reply #3 on: 18 Aug 2006, 06:11 pm »
Actually, Larry Jenkins has been urging me to do the same thing, try building an integrated amp in the new bigger SL chassis with an active preamp section too and cost it out.  It might work and Larry likely will build up a sample for us one of these days soon.

Frank

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Re: why not an integrated?
« Reply #4 on: 18 Aug 2006, 09:16 pm »
Hey Frank,

I was actually wondering about using the amplifier chassis w/ the 7" height  :scratch:; that way, maybe the power transformer(s) could mount to the sides...leaving more real estate in the 'middle'  :?

But if it would all fit into the new pre-amp chassis- that would be cool  8)

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avadoro

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Re: why not an integrated?
« Reply #5 on: 19 Aug 2006, 07:33 pm »
wow!! a Van Alstine integrated would be awesome...!!

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Re: why not an integrated?
« Reply #6 on: 20 Aug 2006, 12:30 pm »
IMO an integrated could fit right into the AVA well built, good sound, budget conscience, no nonsense portion of the AVA market (as opposed to the latest and greatest crowd).  I was sorry to see it go a couple of years back.

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Re: why not an integrated?
« Reply #7 on: 21 Aug 2006, 08:07 pm »
Not sure about an integrated but I am using a CI VPC voice controll unit with a 550exr and it works to produce an excellent sound. The VPC can be had used for $175 and take up about 4" square.
http://www.ciaudio.com/

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Re: why not an integrated?
« Reply #8 on: 22 Aug 2006, 10:51 pm »
Frank, you mentioned the 'lack of power and control flexibility'....it's probably not needed in an 'entry' level integrated.

I think if you could squeeze (4) inputs plus a record loop (buffered would be nice!); a single set of speaker posts; one AC inlet; a selector knob; a record loop toggle; a volume control; and a solid 60wpc into one box... you would have a good quality, "made in the USA' alternative to the European and Canadian integrated's.

You likely know the competition. There isn't a USA integrated made that competes with those as far as I know. The least expensive of that 'group' I'm referring to retails for $695; the most expensive for $2200.

It could be tough on the lower end of the price range; but the $2200 model I'm thinking about has sold pretty well. (they have a circle here on AC)

Just dreaming....... :|

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