Listening session at Chris Brady's (Teres Audio}

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Wayne1

Listening session at Chris Brady's (Teres Audio}
« on: 2 Jun 2003, 03:03 pm »
Jason Wong, Mike Galusha, and I trecked on up to the northern suburb of Broomfield on Saturday night to participate in a listening session at Teres World Headquarters.

We arrived around 5:30 pm and as we wandered up to the door, we spied a note affixed to it stating " Come on in. Go downstairs and follow the music".

We follow the directions, wending our way through the shipping and receiving department and the R&D labs to arrive at the custom built listening chamber.  Chris was already there with a one of his friends, evaluating the new prototype 300 series Teres platter and base.

Greetings were exchanged and we then procceded to bring in some of our gear we wanted to listen to, in the Teres Reference System.

Jason brought his Sony XA-777ES, I brought my modded NS-500V and the Mensa Plus DI/O and Mike brought his Stan Warren modded Philips SA-1000. I also brought some cables, Bybee in-line Purifiers, and the Hagerman Bugle Phono preamp I had built about a week and a half ago.

The early listening sessions were of the 300 series turntable and a 200 series with the different platters. The Cocobolo platter sounded better on the 200 series and the 300 was simply all the 265 is and so much more!

For fun, I gave Chris a pair of the in-line Bybee Purifiers and asked him to put them in line with the phono cables. He is using a Benz Ruby 2 with a .3mv output.

We were playing a 45 prm Louis Armstrog cut and the difference was readily apparent. The cymbals took on a more natural shimmer, Louis' voice was even more articulate. It was the same sotr of effect that the Bybees have in almost all instances. They removed/ lowered a noise floor that you weren't even aware was there. All vinyl listening for the rest of the evening was done with the Bybees in place.

We then got down to the digital comparison. We listened to a SACD track on the XA-777ES, then on the NS-500V and finally on the SA-1000.

I may be a bit biased :D  but I felt the NS-500 that I modded was damn close to the 777 overall. The NS-500 had a bit tighter bass, the 777 had a slightly more natural mid, but I did like the highs of the NS-500V. They weren't too far apart. Considering the price difference, $3000.00 retail for the 777 vs $130.00 for the NS-500, I felt the mods were well worth it.

The Philips didn't fare too well, in my opinion, It did not have the dynamics of the 777 or the image and high end defintion of the NS-500. All the players were plugged in for at least 45 minutes to an hour before we listened.

We then listened to redbook and the Mensa Plus DI/O was far and away better sounding than all of the one box players.

It was time to get back to analog and Chris let me hook up the Hagerman Bugle in his system. I used a K&K Audio step-up transformer before the Hagerman to give us the 60 db of gain needed to use the Benz.

I was very pleased to hear just how good the Bugle performed. It did not have the midrange warmth of Chris' tube phono section. The top end had a bit too much tip up, but it is less than two weeks old. It does need at least another two weeks of beak-in. For its young age and low cost, I was very pleased with its sound. I do feel that this preamp section is a great value!

We played around with power cables, Chris preferred the sound of the NITRO power cable on his preamp over the very large, expensive Virtual Dynamics power cable he was using. Interconnects, Silver Bullet Bybee Nitro preferred :wink: and then we were back listening to the DI/O and I inserted another Bybee inline purifier. This time in the Digital input line. The difference we heard was the same as when we used it in the phono cable! .

There was a bit more listening and comparisons, but I will let Pez and Mike add their comments, hopefully.

I had a most enjoyable time up north, I do want to thank Chris for opening his doors to us southern folk. I came away with even more appreciation for Chris and his works and undeniable lust for his turntables.

Jay S

Listening session at Chris Brady's (Teres Audio}
« Reply #1 on: 2 Jun 2003, 03:31 pm »
Sounds like fun!  

We listened to the XA777ES a couple of times at Guan's place.  The highs seemed a bit rolled off and the overall level of clarity and resolution was not up to the level of Guan's custom pencil tube dac.  As a transport it was also bested by Guan's Sony NS900V (upgraded with a Furutech IEC and an MXO2 clock but otherwise stock) in terms of clarity, top and bottom end extension and overall musicality.  The XA777ES has been highly acclaimed in Stereophile and other publications so I think that Guan and I are used to a pretty high standard when it comes to digital.  His pencil tube dac and the Mensa Plus seem to be in the same performance ballpark; maybe someday we'll do a serious head to head.  

That said, I can't wait to hear of Wayne's experiments with ERS for the DI/O.  I am also going to be getting a pair of his bybee inline filters and the first place I will try 1 is on the digital input of the Mensa Plus!  

Based on our 4 preamp comparison this weekend (writeup/comments to follow) I believe that my Joule has a bit of extra sweetness to the highs and doesn't quite reproduce the extended natural shimmer of cymbals.  I think that the inline bybee should do the trick.  8)

Wayne1

Listening session at Chris Brady's (Teres Audio}
« Reply #2 on: 2 Jun 2003, 05:34 pm »


Here is a poor picture of the three SACD players with the Teres 300 series in the background. All of Chris' gear is handmade, even his tubetraps!

It is a wonderful listening room.

audiojerry

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Listening session at Chris Brady's (Teres Audio}
« Reply #3 on: 2 Jun 2003, 05:40 pm »
Thanks for the informative review. What is a NS 500v, and is it multi channel?

Wayne1

Listening session at Chris Brady's (Teres Audio}
« Reply #4 on: 2 Jun 2003, 05:55 pm »
The Sony DVP-NS500V was Sony's least expensive SACD/DVD/CD player from about 6-8 months ago. They were being closed out at Best Buy and the like stores for $130.00. You still might find some around on E-Bay.

They are multichanel. Stock, they are not the greatest. The power supply is a switching type that does make a bit of RFI. I changed out all the power supply caps, PS diodes, replaced the op-amps and rebuilt all the analog output citcuitry.

I treated all the ICs with Tube-O-Lator, replaced the power cable with a captive NITRO and applied dampening material to the case.

It is a perfectly adequate machine for my HT/multichannel system.

I keep the turntable, modded Cal Delta and Mensa Plus DI/O in my office to use with my headphone rig.

JoshK

Listening session at Chris Brady's (Teres Audio}
« Reply #5 on: 2 Jun 2003, 05:59 pm »
FYI, although the XA777 is $3K retail I got mine new from an auth dealer for $1850.