iAudio, Flac, Sennheiser

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Carlman

iAudio, Flac, Sennheiser
« on: 10 Mar 2006, 06:55 pm »
My current music library is all .flac encoded and I wanted to listen to music at work or take with me...  I did some searching on 'portable flac' and found an iaudio M3.  However, it appears they are no longer made and I didn't want to buy a used one since I'm not all that familiar with them.

I found this: http://eng.iaudio.com/product/product_M5_feature.php

I ordered one from Amazon along with a pair of Sennheiser HD202 headphones.  I'm hoping it'll be a good long-term portable audio solution for me.... and that it's a good match given these specs:

SNR     95dB
Max Output    16 Ohm Earphone : 20mW + 20mW
Frequency Range    20Hz ~ 20KHz

I know nothing about headphones or what makes a synergistic match.  But if you have a better recommendation given the above, I'd be interested to hear them.

I was really pleased to have found something that works for my flac situation.  I only wish it had a digital out.  Who knows, maybe it has it?

I'd be interested to hear if anyone has used iAudio products or the Sennheiser 202's.  I thought I read somewhere that they were great for the money... I paid $25 which I thought was inexpensive.

Thanks,
Carl

kfr01

iAudio, Flac, Sennheiser
« Reply #1 on: 10 Mar 2006, 07:08 pm »
Carlman:

I haven't used them but I'm interesting in hearing what you find.  I've been considering an iAudio solution for some time as my collection is also FLAC.

Please report back.  :-)

duff138

iAudio, Flac, Sennheiser
« Reply #2 on: 10 Mar 2006, 07:24 pm »
i just grabbed this link from hifi.org, someone had mention flac and ipod.  looks like this may allow that.  i need to read it still.


http://www.rockbox.org/

Carlman

iAudio, Flac, Sennheiser
« Reply #3 on: 18 Mar 2006, 01:20 pm »
OK, my toys arrived yesterday and I got it charged and playing later last night.  

Setup is amazingly simple.  It's like using a USB thumb drive, just plug it in and your PC sees it as a drive, no software needed.

There are some folders on there, one called 'Music' so I loaded song files and folders to it to see how the interface would work.    The player recognized all my id tags and the flac's sounded great.  I'm not sure how it chooses to go from one song to the next but there is a list, random play, and other playing methods that I'm still learning.

When I first started it, everything sounded like crap.  The bass was 'expanded' the 'BBE' was on a high setting... etc.  So, I turned off all that crap and things got much better... but it's still not as good as my normal 2-channel system for sheer realism.  What? $25 headphones aren't as good as $1,k speakers with another $1,k in tweaks? ;)

The Senn 202's have excellent isolation characteristics.  I don't know how much but I could hear myself breathing, it cut my wife's TV blaring to less than half... If I played music at a light volume I could barely hear anything else, if I played at what I call a 'normal' level for me, I couldn't hear anything else.

I'm pretty sure the headphones need more breakin but I don't have many devices that have headphone outs.... so, I let the iAudio play all night at a good volume (a little louder than I'd like for 'normal' but not distorting).  I couldn't get distortion, btw at any tolerable levels unless the music was crapily recorded in the first place.  (Like David Bowie's 'Queen Bitch'.. great song but it gets a little screetchy on most systems)  I adjusted the eq settings some more and this was even tolerable at high volumes. :)

Anyway, the bass was a little muddy at times but the midrange was very nice; Nick Drake sounded incredible.  To me, this sounds like break-in issues... I'll find something to continue breaking in the phones.

The iAudio may not have died after playing last night, it may have decided to sleep after some point but I don't know.  I forgot it has a power switch and I tried to revive it by just pushing 'play'.  When it didn't, I put it on the charger.  If it did, I'll be interested to see what the real life is today.

One thing I don't know is....  there is a thin 4-contact slot under the headphone jack.  I'm wondering if this is a digital out.  Do other countries use some other kind of headphone jack that looks like a small rectangular connector?  I'll look in the manual after it charges.  You can't charge and play at the same time, it's 2 different cables; even if you get the cradle you can only do one or the other.  The device end of the cable looks exactly like my Palm Tungsten E's cable, BTW.

Overall, I'm quite pleased.  The whole thing was about $275.  That's not small change for a portable music player and headphones.  However, I think it's a good way to take a little piece of 'audiophilism' with you. ;)

-C

chadh

iAudio, Flac, Sennheiser
« Reply #4 on: 18 Mar 2006, 03:12 pm »
Just a guess, from looking at the pictures ( these ones: http://eng.iaudio.com/product/product_M5_photo.php ), but is that mystery four-contact slot the connection point for the (optional) remote?

Chad

Carlman

iAudio, Flac, Sennheiser
« Reply #5 on: 18 Mar 2006, 03:52 pm »
Quote from: chadh
Just a guess, from looking at the pictures ( these ones: http://eng.iaudio.com/product/product_M5_photo.php ), but is that mystery four-contact slot the connection point for the (optional) remote?

Chad


Ah yes, it appears so.

BTW, this is a well-built little device.  It feels like a solid chunk of aluminum in your hand.  It's 100% silent.

Oh, and the headphones are very quiet externally.  My wife couldn't hear the music and I was jammin' out.

-C

kfr01

iAudio, Flac, Sennheiser
« Reply #6 on: 18 Mar 2006, 04:01 pm »
Still hard drive based though, right?

I'm waiting for 5g+ of flash and flac 0-8 support.

I smell it coming...

Carlman

iAudio, Flac, Sennheiser
« Reply #7 on: 18 Mar 2006, 04:33 pm »
I don't know if it's an HD or flash... I guess an HD... I'd still rather have 20G than 5G, though.  I looked at the Ipod Nano which has 4G.  I like the iAudio's joystick over the Ipod's touch-sensing control.  Plus, the Nano was almost 'too' small for my fumbly hands.  BTW, this device records also if that matters.

What are the benefits of flash memory other than size?

-C