I've been listening to Russian Circles for many years and haven't heard of Botch. I'll give them a listen. Thanks for the tip! ![Thumbs up :thumb:](https://www.audiocircle.com/Smileys/audiocircle/smiley_thumb.gif)
Definitely heavier, so not everyone's cup of tea. Russian Circles is a bit more accessable, but you can definitely hear the Botch sound in the other bands they went to (Russian Circles, Minus The Bear). Unfortunately they broke up right when I was getting into that type of music.