SPV1 Switcher & SP2 Pre-Pro

gostan · « **on:** 1 Feb 2006, 05:54 pm »

Will the updated SP2 pre-pro work with the older SPV1 switcher?

James Tanner · « **Reply #1 on:** 1 Feb 2006, 06:41 pm »

Quote from: gostan

Will the updated SP2 pre-pro work with the older SPV1 switcher?

It will soon. We still have to write the software for the SP2 to communicate with the SPV1. Should be about 3 weeks.

james

_andy_ · « **Reply #2 on:** 2 Feb 2006, 04:02 am »

Are any preliminary specs available on the planned SPV-2 you mentioned a while back?

James Tanner · « **Reply #3 on:** 2 Feb 2006, 01:02 pm »

Hi Andy,

Still working on it but basically more HD switching and Transcoding.

james

gostan · « **Reply #4 on:** 2 Feb 2006, 01:29 pm »

Quote from: James Tanner

Quote from: gostan
Will the updated SP2 pre-pro work with the older SPV1 switcher?

It will soon. We still have to write the software for the SP2 to communicate with the SPV1. Should be about 3 weeks.

james

James:

Thank you for the swift response. I have just jumped on the Bryston bandwagon by ordering the SP2 from my Bryston dealer yesterday. For now, I will simply route the video sources direct from my dvd player and hd-satellite box to the monitor. I can control all with my Harmony remote (for the rest of my family) while we all wait for all of the HDMI and HD technology to sort itself out allowing you to deliver a SPV-2 switcher with some legs on it. The lack of an OSD source may be a little inconvenient at initial setup time, but I find that once I enter final settings that I very rarely modify them. After using two other manufacturers' pre-pros over the past 2 1/2 years, I completely buy into the Bryston philosophy of utilizing a separate video switcher.

Stan

James Tanner · « **Reply #5 on:** 2 Feb 2006, 03:45 pm »

Hi Stan,

Yes I agree it will take a little more time to sort out the HDMI audio and video issues. I also agree that few people realize how much of a compromise (sonically) having video on board creates.

As for ON-Screen (same as you) I do the setup and rarely touch it after that.

By the way which dealer did you order your SP2 from - I will keep an eye out for it.

james

jethro · « **Reply #6 on:** 2 Feb 2006, 09:50 pm »

Quote from: James Tanner

Hi Andy,

Still working on it but basically more HD switching and Transcoding.

james

Hi James,

I was wondering what you mean by transcoding ?

Is there any possibility that there might be an SPV-1 to SPV-2 upgrade ?

Thanks.

James Tanner · « **Reply #7 on:** 2 Feb 2006, 10:50 pm »

HI Jethro,

No we can not go from the SPV1 to an SPV2 as the circuitry is completely different.

By Transcoding I mean you can go in any kind of video connector and come out any kind. So "S" in Component Out or Component IN - HDMI out etc.

james

jethro · « **Reply #8 on:** 2 Feb 2006, 10:58 pm »

Thanks for the info James.

Any chance that there will be an HDMI to component converter ?

James Tanner · « **Reply #9 on:** 2 Feb 2006, 11:14 pm »

Have not looked at the HDMI converter but it is a thought.

james

nicolasb · « **Reply #10 on:** 3 Feb 2006, 10:31 am »

Quote from: jethro

Any chance that there will be an HDMI to component converter ?

I hope you don't mean a device that strips HDCP encryption from a digital input signal and outputs unencrypted analogue, thereby violating the HDCP licensing agreement and laying Bryston open to fines of several million dollars.

_andy_ · « **Reply #11 on:** 4 Feb 2006, 03:14 am »

Quote from: James Tanner

Hi Andy,

Still working on it but basically more HD switching and Transcoding.

james

...understood, thx James.

Andy.

jethro · « **Reply #12 on:** 4 Feb 2006, 03:19 pm »

Quote from: nicolasb

Quote from: jethro
Any chance that there will be an HDMI to component converter ?

I hope you don't mean a device that strips HDCP encryption from a digital input signal and outputs unencrypted analogue, thereby violating the HDCP licensing agreement and laying Bryston open to fines of several million dollars.

Well, if you're going to put it that way, I guess not.

I didn't realize that they were now putting restrictions on the analog domain. I guess this probably means that there will be no outputs on new TV's.

nicolasb · « **Reply #13 on:** 6 Feb 2006, 09:48 am »

Well, there is a licensing restriction for any device that possesses an HDCP-compliant digital input: it is not allowed to have any kind of output except a) a digital output that is also HDCP encrypted, or b) a standard definition analogue output. So you could have a device that accepts HDCP-encrypted digital hi-def, downscales the signal from 1920x1080 to 720x480, and then outputs that over component; but not one that produces a high-definition component output.

There are all sorts of finicky licensing rules like this. If a DVD player has an HDMI output, for example, then it's against the licensing agreement to allow non-HDCP-encrypted digital output from it.

Bob15 · « **Reply #14 on:** 17 Feb 2006, 10:16 am »

I have a question as I was thinking about this last night. I am intrigued by Bryston's ability to provide upgrades to its single pre/pro at this price point, and have read you will do so to take into account Hi-Def audio.

Now, I assume that HD or Blu Ray DVD players will have one HDMI output that carries both hi-def audio and video. So how will this looping work in conjunction with an upgraded SP2 and SPV2 switcher?

Would you:

A. Run the HDMI output from the DVD player into the HDMI input on the SP2 directly and then HDMI out from the SP2 into the SPV2 switcher which then goes HDMI out into a TV?

B. Or would you expect that you would go HDMI Out from the DVD player directly into the Switcher's HDMI input and then from the Switcher there would be one HDMI output into the SP2 to carry the audio and another HDMI output into the person's TV?

C. Or are these both wrong and there is a simpler solution?

James Tanner · « **Reply #15 on:** 17 Feb 2006, 03:38 pm »

Hey Bob,

Assuming HDMI offers both Video and Audio Hi-Res we will probably go with option A.

That way if your using the SP2 without our video switcher the Hi-Res Audio is available to the SP2.

james

nicolasb · « **Reply #16 on:** 17 Feb 2006, 08:25 pm »

If you go with option A then that means you can't use the switcher to switch between HDMI sources, which rather eliminates the point of having a switcher in the first place. Option B would seem to be more reasonable - multiple AV sources connecting to the switcher which forwards only one audio signal to the processor, and the corresponding video signal to the display.

Or, alternatively, the switcher could forward audio and video to the processor, with the processor acquiring video pass-through ability, but that sounds nastier.

James Tanner · « **Reply #17 on:** 17 Feb 2006, 10:41 pm »

Hi nicolasb,

Point noted.

james

Bob15 · « **Reply #18 on:** 18 Feb 2006, 12:02 am »

It doesn't look like you guys have given this a lot of thought yet, eh?

Is there any way to confirm with your software and engineering support team that it can be done? For example, the new Pioneer Elite Blue Ray Player has only one HDMI output and it carries both hi-def audio and video (so I assume that will be the case with most players).

If that's the case, then both hi-def audio and video will need to go into the SP2's HDMI-In. Can the SP2 be configured to send just the video back through its HDMI-Out into the SPV2 switcher??

Thanks for help in advance.

James Tanner · « **Reply #19 on:** 18 Feb 2006, 02:25 am »

HI Bob,

True - we have not really discussed it in any detail yet. I assume we will dealwith it when the HDMI requirements are set.

james