Is it me or are more manufactures starting to market hybrids. If so how far ahead are the AVA designs. And how long will it take for these guys to refind their designs to achieve the level of refindment of the AVA gear. Mod Wrignt, Blue Circle, Mornachy Audio ect.. And more to the point how many of these guys are not given credit where credit is do. To Mr. Van Alstine.