Should technical discussions of speaker design be avoided

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_scotty_

What's your opinion.


I think technical discussions are relevant to learning more about how speakers perform and why they sound the way they do.
I also think they can provide another data point when it come to making purchasing decisions.
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Should technical discussions of speaker design be avoided
« Reply #1 on: 11 Jan 2006, 10:23 pm »
I think as long you are inflammatory, who cares whether someone uses test data or their ears or both (or reviews on the internet for that matter) to decide to purchase speakers.

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Re: Should technical discussions of speaker design be avoide
« Reply #2 on: 11 Jan 2006, 10:58 pm »
Quote from: _scotty_
What's your opinion.


I think technical discussions are relevant to learning more about how speakers perform and why they sound the way they do.
I also think they can provide another data point when it come to making purchasing decisions.
Scotty


Before you edited your post you quoted "Jim". Which Jim was that?

JoshK

Should technical discussions of speaker design be avoided
« Reply #3 on: 12 Jan 2006, 01:20 am »
There are some that will engage in such discussions and some that won't.  It is the ones that profess to be technical and yet can't hang with it that irk me.  

What Bob said is right though, you can be polite and pointed or inflammatory and guise it with data.  I think you must respect those you engage in debate with or else it is just a fight, and will be called as such.

(I didn't read Scotty's post before he edited, so I don't know what started this thread off, just adding my $.02.)  

What equally irks me is people who hide behind "science".  I won't name names, but if you are willing to offer up the science your basing your conclusions on, no matter how obvious it might be to you, and the assumptions it is based on, then it is of little support.

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Re: Should technical discussions of speaker design be avoide
« Reply #4 on: 12 Jan 2006, 04:26 am »
Quote from: _scotty_
What's your opinion.


I think technical discussions are relevant to learning more about how speakers perform and why they sound the way they do.
I also think they can provide another data point when it come to making purchasing decisions.
Scotty


Discussion of technical issues is good and the more informed you are the better your buying decisions will be.

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Re: Should technical discussions of speaker design be avoide
« Reply #5 on: 12 Jan 2006, 06:33 pm »
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Quote from: _scotty_
What's your opinion.


I think technical discussions are relevant to learning more about how speakers perform and why they sound the way they do.
I also think they can provide another data point when it come to making purchasing decisions.
Scotty


Discussion of technical issues is good and the more informed you are the better your buying decisions will be.


I agree, and I think that it applies to all areas of audio systems.

We don't buy a musician's performance directly, we buy a reproduction of it and technology, science, and engineering are involved the whole way through it reaching our ears.

It's only natural to discuss technical issues.

warnerwh

Should technical discussions of speaker design be avoided
« Reply #6 on: 12 Jan 2006, 08:27 pm »
I think it is good. The more educated you become with speaker design though the more it seems you really don't know much at all. At least this has been the case with me. As Josh stated people who think they know alot irk me also.  The only people who know what's going on are the speaker designers themselves.  Talk to the guys who've been building diy speakers for years and they'll tell you they still have alot to learn. As long as people keep that in mind I think we're all better off.

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« Reply #7 on: 12 Jan 2006, 08:54 pm »
Technical aspects of how and why the speakers I sell (Sound Lab) work are a significant interest of my customers. As an engineer I try to understand things and explain them as best I can, with notable exceptions of where information is proprietary - most of the time I don't know.

Of course the final result is what matters, the proof is in the listening. While one can cite frequency response, impedance, and so on, the way the speakers perform in the room and communicate the music listening experience to the listener hour after hour, recording after recording, is what really counts. Fortunately in the case of Sound Labs, Dr. Roger West's background as a Ph.D. in psychoacoustics and electronics lend significant merit to the design.

At the end of April people will be able to meet Dr. West here in the Chicago area and hear his latest efforts at a presentation to the Chicago Audio Society.