Loreleis have arrived

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Sonny

First Night...
« Reply #60 on: 28 Sep 2005, 08:23 pm »
Well, after a full day, Monday, of digesting Patricia Barber's Modern Cool on Repeat, I listened to the Loreleis again last night.  They continue to improve...the bass i tighter, deeper and more open.  I don't have them on spikes yet, as I am waiting for them from Klaus.  So far they are sounding great!  The details are amazing and the scanspeak drivers sing as beautiful as Anna Netrebko looks and sounds.  What more can you ask for.  I started playing some classical pieces, as that is the main jist of the concern for me when I compare the Loreleis to the Herons.  Right now, I can't really say regarding the separation of the instruments (e.g. violins, cellos, violas, etc...) from the orchestra, but I am not complaining...I will have to wait to do the A/B with the Herons before I can comment on that.

But just a FYI, they are singing as expected, what with all the rave reviews about them from current owners....its true!!!

Sonny

bunky

Re: First Night...
« Reply #61 on: 28 Sep 2005, 10:59 pm »
Quote from: Sonny
Well, after a full day, Monday, of digesting Patricia Barber's Modern Cool on Repeat, I listened to the Loreleis again last night.  They continue to improve...the bass i tighter, deeper and more open.  I don't have them on spikes yet, as I am waiting for them from Klaus.  So far they are sounding great!  The details are amazing and the scanspeak drivers sing as beautiful as Anna Netrebko looks and sounds.  What more can you ask for.  I started playing some classical pieces, as that is the main jist of the c ...
i am listening to the Michael Hedges taproot album and it sounds oh so sweet. tomorrow my Loreleis will be three weeks old and i am still hearing a small amount of improvement each day. i figure by the end of the fourth week the crossovers should improve about as much as they are going to. these speakers are so musical and do everything so very well. i was worried about room acoustics and what if they are not right in my listening enviroment? but nothing could have been further from the truth. these speakers are perfect for me and my listening room. i talked to Klaus tonight and he is on his way to the rocky mountain audiofest. i am having Herr Bunge build me a 10'pair of Groneberg TS premium speaker cables for my Loreleis.the fact that byteme has better speaker wire than me is killing me.  :lol: just kidding!well Sonny do you think they as good as some of us are saying they are?

Sonny

Re: First Night...
« Reply #62 on: 28 Sep 2005, 11:17 pm »
Quote from: bunky
well Sonny do you think they as good as some of us are saying they are?


Bunky...I am starting to think you and Byteme may be right, as well as the numerous others.  I have Groneberg Quattros right now as speaker cables as well as i/c...no plans to upgrade to the reference Gronebergs.  They sound good at the moment.

Can't wait to get home to listen some more tonight!!!

Bunky, how many hours would you say you have in them now?

Sonny

bunky

Re: First Night...
« Reply #63 on: 29 Sep 2005, 12:36 am »
Quote from: Sonny
Quote from: bunky
well Sonny do you think they as good as some of us are saying they are?


Bunky...I am starting to think you and Byteme may be right, as well as the numerous others.  I have Groneberg Quattros right now as speaker cables as well as i/c...no plans to upgrade to the reference Gronebergs.  They sound good at the moment.

Can't wait to get home to listen some more tonight!!!

Bunky, how many hours would you say you have in them now?

Sonny
thats a good question Sonny hmmm... maybe 120 to 150 hours ? i really have not been keeping track of the hours. it may only be a hundred hours ? i know that the drivers break in much faster than those humvee crossovers do. i will give them another week before i sit down and start to listen to them critically.

TjMV3

Loreleis have arrived
« Reply #64 on: 30 Sep 2005, 01:42 am »
I love the fact there other Michael Hedges lovers here.  I hardly know any in my life.  Especially Taproot,  which along with Breakfast In The Field  are my favorites by Hedges.  But I love just about everything he did.

I can hardly wait for when I finally get my Lories.  Still going to be a few months.

bunky

Loreleis have arrived
« Reply #65 on: 30 Sep 2005, 09:10 am »
Quote from: TjMV3
I love the fact there other Michael Hedges lovers here.  I hardly know any in my life.  Especially Taproot,  which along with Breakfast In The Field  are my favorites by Hedges.  But I love just about everything he did.

I can hardly wait for when I finally get my Lories.  Still going to be a few months.
how can you not love Michael Hedges? i feel that he was one of the most talented Guitar players ever to draw a breath. Captain Humble also listens to him.Aerial boundaries is also one of my favorite albums. years ago a friend of mine had a Windham hill music catalog and it quoted Steve Vai as saying that Michael Hedges plays some of the most beautiful Guitar on the planet.i would have to agree. i bought my first Hedges cd used at a local record store and when i went to the checkout the manager said he was a big  Hedges fan also and we became good friends as a result .the Loreleis absolutely Sing when i play this mans guitar music!.........thanks...........WCW III

bunky

Loreleis have arrived
« Reply #66 on: 4 Oct 2005, 07:45 pm »
:singing: Sonny how are the Loreleis coming along ?

Sonny

Heron vs Lorelei
« Reply #67 on: 4 Oct 2005, 08:29 pm »
Quote from: bunky
:singing: Sonny how are the Loreleis coming along ?


Hey Bunky...

Sorry for the delayed feedback on the Loreleis...but here it is as of last night...

So, its been running now for about 150 hours, and its getting better all the time.  I've compared it to the Herons on Jazz, Classical and Vocals.

I must say that the Loreleis win out on the details, the high end, especially the symblance and the vocals...but being a long time Meadowlark owner, its seems that's natural as the Loreleis put you on the 1-2nd row seating while the Herons, you're back in the 15th row, etc.  

Bass, well, it has no problems snapping the basslines on the Patricia Barber cuts, fast and full.  Its amazingly taut, though its sitting on the foam that it was packed in, since I have not received the spikes from Klaus as of yet.  Cello sounds natural and tonal quality is good, violins are wonderful and horns, i.e. trumpets/saxaphones are natural, however, I think the Herons do give it more body than the Loreleis.

For Jazz music and small ensembles, I would give the edge to the Loreleis as it brings you into the club...never missing a beat on the separation of the instruments...You always are able to distinguish the symblance even if Patricia is singing and the bass is strumming.  On the Herons, the symblance aren't as defined, or distinguished...maybe that has something to do with its laid back approacy, or because the Seas tweeters on the Loreleis are just better than the Audax tweeter, I don't know.

On classical, if you're listening to ensembles, quartets or chamber music, the Loreleis are amazing, it brings the same tonal balance in jazz to the instruments violijs, cellos, etc...but when it comes to big bombastic pieces, like Stravinsky's firebird suites...it can't match the shear umpf of the Herons.  That's not saying that you would know...I only reconignzed it because I can do an a/b with a bigger speaker, the Herons.  When the drums kick in and the whole symphony is strumming, the Herons, with its four drivers, three-way design) was able to better separate the instruments and provide a more dynamic and shear size to the orchestra, while the Loreleis would have sounded phenomenol, if the Herons weren't there to compare to.  

Overall, I am still trying to audition as much as I can to get a fair shot to both speakers...Granted, if the Lorelei has its spikes, it may make a it that much better...

I will give you more feedback as soon as I get more butt time on the couch...

Sonny!

DSK

Re: Heron vs Lorelei
« Reply #68 on: 5 Oct 2005, 12:26 am »
Quote from: Sonny
... symblance ...

 :scratch: Sonny, do you mean 'semblance'?

bunky

Re: Heron vs Lorelei
« Reply #69 on: 5 Oct 2005, 01:11 am »
Quote from: Sonny
Hey Bunky...

Sorry for the delayed feedback on the Loreleis...but here it is as of last night...

So, its been running now for about 150 hours, and its getting better all the time.  I've compared it to the Herons on Jazz, Classical and Vocals.

I must say that the Loreleis win out on the details, the high end, especially the symblance and the vocals...but being a long time Meadowlark owner, its seems that's natural as the Loreleis put you on the 1-2nd row seating while the Herons, you're back in the  ...
it sounds like you are having fun playing with both pairs of speakers. the tweeters that the Loreleis use are made by Scanspeak but my Epiphonys use a Seas tweeter. i am not sure what tweeters the other Odyssey loudspeakers are using.....thanks.....WCW III

Sonny

Loreleis have arrived
« Reply #70 on: 5 Oct 2005, 04:47 am »
Sorry DSK, you're right...
Bunky, right, its the scanspeak...
No chance to listen to them tonight, but like you said, I am having fun playing with both...though I wish I had the spikes...can you post a picture of your speakers Bunky?
Thanks
Sonny

Russell Dawkins

Loreleis have arrived
« Reply #71 on: 5 Oct 2005, 05:19 am »
DSK - I'm guessing Sonny is referring to sibilants, at first I thought sibilance.
Sonny?
Russell

Sonny

Loreleis have arrived
« Reply #72 on: 5 Oct 2005, 04:50 pm »
Quote from: Russell Dawkins
DSK - I'm guessing Sonny is referring to sibilants, at first I thought sibilance.
Sonny?
Russell


All, I met both Symbilance and Cymbals...meaning the sounds of the drum's cymbals was amazing and the overall tonal quality of sound on the upper frequencies...

Sorry for the confusion.

Sonny

miklorsmith

Loreleis have arrived
« Reply #73 on: 5 Oct 2005, 05:28 pm »
I'm confused too.  Sibilants are the hissing "S" and like in vocals.  Cymbals are obviously instruments.  I don't know what sibilance or symbilance are.  If I'm dense, please enlighten.  Or, if it's a typo, that's OK.  I'm trying to track the heartfelt observations of these obviously excellent speakers.

Thanks

Sonny

Loreleis have arrived
« Reply #74 on: 5 Oct 2005, 05:45 pm »
Quote from: miklorsmith
I'm confused too.  Sibilants are the hissing "S" and like in vocals.  Cymbals are obviously instruments.  I don't know what sibilance or symbilance are.  If I'm dense, please enlighten.  Or, if it's a typo, that's OK.  I'm trying to track the heartfelt observations of these obviously excellent speakers.

Thanks


OK, so, hopefully I can straighten this out...
Yes, there is hiss on the vocals, but that is really the sign of the detailness of the speakers, as the hiss is really in the recording, and not the reproduction by the speakers.  The cymbals from the Lorelei's are amazing, crisp, life like, distinct and natural...

Hope that helps...no more symbalance, simbalance or whatever, please consider them as spelling errors...etc...

bunky

Loreleis have arrived
« Reply #75 on: 5 Oct 2005, 11:36 pm »
Quote from: Sonny
Sorry DSK, you're right...
Bunky, right, its the scanspeak...
No chance to listen to them tonight, but like you said, I am having fun playing with both...though I wish I had the spikes...can you post a picture of your speakers Bunky?
Thanks
Sonny
i dont own a digital camera and when i stop procrastinating i will buy a camera and post pictures of my entire system. they show the cones on the bottoms of the Loreleis in the six moons review only mine are black with silver tips instead of the brass colored ones in the review pictures.....thanks......WCW III

Sonny

Loreleis have arrived
« Reply #76 on: 10 Oct 2005, 07:39 pm »
Bunky...
Hey, so, how are the Loreleis sounding now?
Mine are good, the details are getting better and better, imaging, bass extension, all of it, though I still don't have the cones.  Only one thing, I can not get the bass to have the impact or dynamics to be as good as the rest...How does yours sound on Classical pieces?  Have you tried it?
Thanks
Sonny

bunky

Loreleis have arrived
« Reply #77 on: 10 Oct 2005, 08:14 pm »
Quote from: Sonny
Bunky...
Hey, so, how are the Loreleis sounding now?
Mine are good, the details are getting better and better, imaging, bass extension, all of it, though I still don't have the cones.  Only one thing, I can not get the bass to have the impact or dynamics to be as good as the rest...How does yours sound on Classical pieces?  Have you tried it?
Thanks
Sonny
mine are really sounding great now. as for classical music i have not tried any yet with the Loreleis. it is not something that i enjoy listening to on a regular basis. i do own some Wagner on cd so i will try it and let you know what my impressions are of it.

Sonny

Loreleis have arrived
« Reply #78 on: 10 Oct 2005, 08:43 pm »
Quote from: bunky
mine are really sounding great now. as for classical music i have not tried any yet with the Loreleis. it is not something that i enjoy listening to on a regular basis. i do own some Wagner on cd so i will try it and let you know what my impressions are of it.


Thanks...
Sonny

bunky

Loreleis have arrived
« Reply #79 on: 10 Oct 2005, 10:26 pm »
Hey Sonny, i listened to the Wagner cd and i must tell you that i was amazed at how good it sounded. there was no lack in the bass department at all. it sounded full,dynamic and very musical. how far are your Loreleis from the rear wall ? when are you getting the cones ? they seemed to tighten up the sound quite a bit!......thanks......WCW III