Line array, ribbons, planars & electrostats vs point sou

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Ravi

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Line array, ribbons, planars & electrostats vs point sou
« Reply #20 on: 17 Apr 2003, 10:30 pm »
Audiojerry, this thread is actually timed very well...

I'm going to be comparing my Ellis 1801s to a friends Magnepan 1.6 speakers.  He has a very high end electronics to match up.  Then next Saturday, I'll be going to John Chapman's audiomeeting.  There I'll hear the Alpha's again.  I'll try to listen to the same recordings on both the 1.6, and the Alpha's, and then see if there is a difference in the way individual images are represented on the soundstage, if nothing else, it will be an interesting test.

Marbles

Line array, ribbons, planars & electrostats vs point sou
« Reply #21 on: 17 Apr 2003, 10:47 pm »
Quote from: Ravi
Audiojerry, this thread is actually timed very well...

I'm going to be comparing my Ellis 1801s to a friends Magnepan 1.6 speakers.  He has a very high end electronics to match up.  Then next Saturday, I'll be going to John Chapman's audiomeeting.  There I'll hear the Alpha's again.  I'll try to listen to the same recordings on both the 1.6, and the Alpha's, and then see if there is a difference in the way individual images are represented on the soundstage, if nothing else, it will be an interesting test.


I'd love to get your thoughts on how the Alpha's stack up against the RM40's.

I hope JC drags them onto the same room this time.

Musichound

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Line array, ribbons, planars & electrostats vs point sou
« Reply #22 on: 17 Apr 2003, 11:59 pm »
I'm a coaxial convert. Imaging is the best I have heard in my room yet. If I had a HUGE room I might be tempted to try Maggies though. Until then my Nelgans are doing the trick.

Chops

Line array, ribbons, planars & electrostats vs point sou
« Reply #23 on: 19 Apr 2003, 05:12 pm »
Just to start things off, I am glad to have found this site. Very nice in deed!  :D

Anyway, the reason for this post is to comment on the Maggies.

I have owned a pair of the MGLR-1 Maggies for almost 6 years now. Eventhough they are not the top of the line, nor bottom of the line, they are about the best sounding, most revieling, and honest loudspeakers I have ever had the pleasure of owning. The only tweeks I have done to them are replacing the original "slant-back" stands for some larger, stronger ones I made myself that have a height adjustment. Also, I made a pair of jumpers with Cardas banana plugs and Kimber Kable PBJ cable in place of the steel tweeter jumper. The jumpers alone made a huge improvement to the sound, making it a bit more airy and lifelike. The DIY stands also helped out a lot in terms of raising not only the Maggies off the floor by 4", but the soundstage as well, and widening it.

Whoever says or thinks Maggies cannot reproduce multiple, 3 dimensional images within the 3 dimensional soundstage must not have them set up properly. They are a very difficult speaker to place in a room.

I'm not trying to start any bad vibes here or anything. I'm just wanting to express my feelings about this topic.

Like I said, I've had my Maggies for almost 6 years, and I love them to death and will only change them out with new, larger Maggies when the time comes. I have had everything in my house from Klipsch Cornwalls to AR 9's to Thiel CS6's, and even some MartinLogan Ascent i's. All of these had good qualities except for the Thiels. The Thiels were very flat and lifeless. There was almost no bass at all, the midrange was very thin, and the highs were so muted, I had to turn the treble almost all the way up on my preamp, and I never use tone controls.

Anyway, to get to my point, the MGLR-1's have absolutely no problem recreating a 3 dimensional soundstage and image. While sitting in the sweet spot with your eyes closed, you can feel like you can reach out and touch the musicians and walk around between them. I used to play in a 113 piece orchestra and these Maggies make me feel like "I am there". They are very lifelike and are very much dynamic. Granted, it helps out when you mate them with a good quality subwoofer and have them crossed over at 80 to 100Hz. But you have to remember, with a sensitivity of only 86dB @ 1 watt, you need a strong, clean amp to power them. I'm using a Carver TFM-35 which is rated at 350 watts @ 4 ohms. However, I am looking to replace that amp with something a little smoother, (any ideas are appreciated!!).  :mrgreen:  If you're running the Maggies fullrange, then I can see where they might not be that dynamic, but they are capable of doing so quite easily when set up right.

The subwoofer I'm using is a DIY unit which is 6cf sealed with a 15" driver powered by a Carver Pro PM700 capable of reaching down to 7Hz. Yes, that's right, 7 hertz!! It's crossed over at 70Hz, is very musical, and can keep up with the Maggies just fine. It is ugly however because it is bare MDF with screws all over it, and has a pushed in dust cap thanks to our new, little naughty kitten. Oh well, putting a 45Hz tone burst through it at about 128dB when she was in front of it the last time kinda solved that problem. Now she just stays on my lap when I listen to the stereo!!

nathanm

Line array, ribbons, planars & electrostats vs point sou
« Reply #24 on: 19 Apr 2003, 07:25 pm »
Quote from: Chops
Oh well, putting a 45Hz tone burst through it at about 128dB when she was in front of it the last time kinda solved that problem. Now she just stays on my lap when I listen to the stereo!!


Well, now we can see if any AC members are in PETA too! :wink: