JVC es1sl vs Sharp SD ex-111

tubeytubeamp · « **on:** 7 Sep 2005, 05:07 pm »

I'm looking for a backup amp to my JVC after selling my horrid Harman Kardon hk620 integrated amp. Is the general consensus that the Sharp is better than the JVC?

Thanks
Dennis

mcgsxr · « **Reply #1 on:** 7 Sep 2005, 05:54 pm »

I have heard both the JVC ES-1, and a Sharp in my system, in the last year.

1 - I assume that you are meaning strictly for 2 channel use.
2 - I assume that you have speakers that are an 8 ohm load.
3 - I assume that your speakers are at medium efficiency or more.
4 - I assume that you could care less that the Sharp includes a cd player.
5 - I assume that both would fit on whatever rack you use.

I need to make these assumptions, because in my experience, they would push the decision in different directions, depending. So, if you are looking for something that can drive a 4 ohm load, you will go with the Sharp. If you are using 85db efficient speakers, in a medium or larger room, then the JVC is your better bet. If you would need to buy a cd player, then the Sharp might do it. If you have space considerations etc.

All that said, using high efficiency speakers (96db or so) I found the sound of the modded Sharp to be better. I had Vinnie's Red Wine Sharp EX-111 for a couple of weeks earlier this year, and owned the JVC briefly last Fall. My best friend has the JVC now, and I returned the Sharp, as it was not quite the ticket for me.

The best, and sure lotsa folks like what they have..., in my system is the little JVC EX-A1 off eBay for around $200 or so. Same functionality as the Sharp (ie tuner, pre, amp, and cd player in one, with remote etc) with a little more power (30wpc vs 20wpc for the Sharp as I recall) and really does well with my speakers in my room.

That last part won't help you, but if you can share a little more about your system, and the room, I bet some folks will chime in with some useful stuff!

mcgsxr · « **Reply #2 on:** 7 Sep 2005, 06:35 pm »

I googled your speakers, and see that they are 6 ohm, 91 db efficient. Humph, right in the middle! I know that those would work well with the JVC, and likely the Sharp also.

I think it could come down to how much power you think you need.

I would give the build quality nod to the Sharp, that is for sure, not that my JVC ever gave me any worries, and has worked flawlessly with my friend, but in terms of touchy feely, the Sharp has it beat.

tubeytubeamp · « **Reply #3 on:** 7 Sep 2005, 06:50 pm »

Thanks Mark for your excellent response!

Carlman · « **Reply #4 on:** 7 Sep 2005, 07:11 pm »

Quote from: mcgsxr

.....The best, and sure lotsa folks like what they have..., in my system is the little JVC EX-A1 ...

How do you like the speakers that came with that system? I know they have wood cones but I can't imagine that sounds too good... I'm curious...
Thanks!

As to the original topic... I recently acquired the EX-111... and at 91db you should have great results in a small-ish room... 11x12, 12x14 etc. To me, the sound quality is on par with $500-1,k integrated amps. As a bonus you get a cd player and tuner. I haven't heard the JVC.

-C

TheChairGuy · « **Reply #5 on:** 7 Sep 2005, 07:40 pm »

Quote from: mcgsxr

I have heard both the JVC ES-1, and a Sharp in my system, in the last year.

1 - I assume that you are meaning strictly for 2 channel use.
2 - I assume that you have speakers that are an 8 ohm load.
3 - I assume that your speakers are at medium efficiency or more.
4 - I assume that you could care less that the Sharp includes a cd player.
5 - I assume that both would fit on whatever rack you use.

I need to make these assumptions, because in my experience, they would push the decision in different di ...

Dang, you are thorough CanuckMark...no wonder you're kicking tail selling software these days. I bet you give your prospects no way out of buying from you

ooheadsoo · « **Reply #6 on:** 7 Sep 2005, 11:22 pm »

My mbow1 has approx 85db sensitivity and is powered fine by the sharp - as long as you're not looking to blow up the room. For my listening purposes, I am more than satisfied. Never ran out of steam on normal material (some downloaded home videos had audio signal that was recorded way way too low and shouldn't count.

The midrange of the jvc is warm warm warm. The Sharp is just that.

suits_me · « **Reply #7 on:** 8 Sep 2005, 02:37 am »

I assume everyone knows that every dynamic speaker ever made (that I can think of) which is spec'd as 4 or 6 or 8 ohm will have dips below that value.

tubeytubeamp · « **Reply #8 on:** 8 Sep 2005, 02:51 am »

Thanks for the responses guys. I think I'll wait until the new digi amp products from Onix/Rocket are released.

http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=20820.msg190293#190293

Dennis

mcgsxr · « **Reply #9 on:** 8 Sep 2005, 01:48 pm »

Carlman - to be honest, I STILL have not hooked up the wooden cone, single driver speakers that came with the JVC EX-A1. I cannot bring myself to, as I love the sound from the Visatons too much to bother!

I really should try my front end into the AUX of the JVC though, and see if that brings better results, while I wait for the Felicia balanced power unit.

TheChairGuy - you are too kind! I had a great year last fiscal (won a trip to Hawaii that I could not take, as Michelle is due in November with our 2nd little one) but lots of folks don't buy from me! In fact, that almost becomes the goal... sort out fast who does not need what I sell...

ooheadsoo · « **Reply #10 on:** 8 Sep 2005, 09:59 pm »

Didn't hear those wood cone speakers in a great environment but I did listen for a good 20-30 minutes. Quite bright, actually. Not bad for the price but you wouldn't listen to them for anything other than background music, of course.

Vinnie R. · « **Reply #11 on:** 8 Sep 2005, 11:45 pm »

Quote from: ooheadsoo

Didn't hear those wood cone speakers in a great environment but I did listen for a good 20-30 minutes. Quite bright, actually. Not bad for the price but you wouldn't listen to them for anything other than background music, of course.

A friend of mine recently bought that JVC, and I have to agree about the wood cone speakers. They sounded bright and congested IMO, but I also agree that they were not bad for the price. Too bad I couldn't bring the JVC home and try in my system

Bemopti123 · « **Reply #12 on:** 9 Sep 2005, 12:48 am »

No guys, you do not get the point of these "Sake" soaked drivers....they need to be accompanied with decent Japanese food and heavy doses of "sake" for the "Sake" to make them the best fullrange drivers out there!!!

PS: if there is no decent Sake available....because the best are cold sakes that are regional and cannot be exported due to their delicate nature, you can replace the drinking sake with well chilled Asahi beer...or Kirin lager second!

mcgsxr · « **Reply #13 on:** 9 Sep 2005, 12:36 pm »

Vinnie, the baby JVC will stun you with those b200's... get an ear on that!

Vinnie R. · « **Reply #14 on:** 9 Sep 2005, 01:17 pm »

Quote from: mcgsxr

Vinnie, the baby JVC will stun you with those b200's... get an ear on that!

So I hear

The next time my buddy visits, I'll beg him to bring that JVC...