Lorelei questions

bunky · « **on:** 3 Sep 2005, 01:03 am »

i live in a fairly old shore home circa 1930. my listening room is 22 X 13 x 8 with low pile carpeting is this room large enough to accomodate the Loreleis? i talked to Klaus last week and he is building a pair of them for me in red cherry cabinets.if anyone owns or has spent some time with a pair of Loreleis could you please share your experiences. setups. spacing.distance from the rear wall etc.. i am excited and cant get these speakers out of my head. does anyone have pictures of these speakers in the red cherry finnish? i am climbing the walls waiting for these wonderful loudspeakers! help me out guys!..thanks

KJ · « **Reply #1 on:** 3 Sep 2005, 01:18 am »

Byteme has a room that is somewhat close in size to yours. I know he has been very happy with his. Might want to touch base with him.

Captain Humble used to have a pair of red cherry Loreleis which were gorgeous, but I didn't find his photos on AC. I'd shoot him a PM and see if he still has some photos.

-KJ

byteme · « **Reply #2 on:** 3 Sep 2005, 02:48 am »

My room is about 12x20 with sort of a burbur carpet. I'm quite satisfied with the Lorelies. They are not only elegant to look at but sound better than anything else I've heard. There is always a ton of hype about the newest latest greatest but at the end of the day the Lorelie's are $7000 Syphonic Line Legato's. Yummy!

For placement I started about 25" off the rear wall. I divided the room in 1/3rds width wise and placed the speakers on the intersection of that and the 25" line. I then angled them in a bit and measured from the top front left and right to the sweet spot and moved them until the measurments from each speaker were the same. It took some time but they are dialed in now!

I'm sure Jeff has some pictures of his Red Cherry color. They were also great to look at! I've got light cherry. Let me know if you have any other questions.

KarlDL · « **Reply #3 on:** 3 Sep 2005, 03:34 am »

There's a lot to be said for the "echo test" in speaker placement. My room is 14x21. Even though I don't have Loreleis, the principles are valid regardless of speaker. I began with dimensions not unsimilar to byteme's when my Silverline Sonata IIs arrived. I then walked grid lines about 6" apart, talking toward my primary listening position, clapping hands, and listening for the echos. I put masking tape on the (hardwood) floor at each position where echos seemed minimal. My wife thought that I had gone off the deep end of fanatacism. I optimized location for minimized echos both longitudinally and laterally. I parked the front of my speakers at that position and was pleased with what I heard. So did the wife!

Several months later, I had the opportunity to measure frequency response and reverberation decay at the listening position, using a real-time acoustic analyzer. It was amazing just how "flat" the response was - and mostly free of echos.

I probably could have spent an entire weekend working with instrumentation and placement to achieve the same result. Sometimes the simplest methods really do work.

bunky · « **Reply #4 on:** 6 Sep 2005, 09:55 pm »

i just got off of the phone with Klaus he said he just finished the Loreleis and they are gorgeous! hopefully i will start breaking them in by friday afternoon when i return home from work.how many hours should it take to break in the Loreleis? im very excited and i can hardly wait to see them.he said the shade is a dark red almost mahogany in color. im so happy i almost feel like a kid on christmas.i would like to thank byteme. Karl DL and KJ for thier help and input .thanks guys!

byteme · « **Reply #5 on:** 7 Sep 2005, 12:01 pm »

Quote from: bunky

i just got off of the phone with Klaus he said he just finished the Loreleis and they are gorgeous! hopefully i will start breaking them in by friday afternoon when i return home from work.how many hours should it take to break in the Loreleis? im very excited and i can hardly wait to see them.he said the shade is a dark red almost mahogany in color. im so happy i almost feel like a kid on christmas.i would like to thank byteme. Karl DL and KJ for thier help and input .thanks guys!

I left mine on all day every day for about a week. Durning the day when I was at work I turned the volume up, at night they were just barely playing. I figured that was plenty and then started listening critically. Not that I didn't before that but that amount of time seemed to get things right. I've loved them ever since! Congrats - and like I have to tell you but, ENJOY!

Captain Humble · « **Reply #6 on:** 7 Sep 2005, 01:09 pm »

Sorry, duplicate post

Captain Humble · « **Reply #7 on:** 7 Sep 2005, 01:10 pm »

Bunky Said:

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im very excited and i can hardly wait to see them.he said the shade is a dark red almost mahogany in color. im so happy i almost feel like a kid on christmas.

Congratulations on your Lorlelie purchase.

Sorry it took so long to respond but I just found this thread. I've been, and still am, very busy hosting a ton of evacuees from New Orleans.

Klaus is correct about them being dark. I also have a pair of B&W floorstanders that I have up on stands. I use them as rears. They are also red cherry but are not nearly as dark which lets the grain show through and makes them appear....well more red. My Loreleis showed some red in direct sunlight but without direct sunlight they appeared a deep chocolate color. Regardless they were fine looking.

A friend of mine is a VP for a large furniture manufacturer. The first time he saw them he asked if they were built in Canada and then went on to explain that red cherry in Canada is darker than the red cherry in the states and in the UK. I was amazed that he could tell from the color of the finish where a piece of furniture was built.

I did get some nice pics of the my Lors but deleted them from the gallery after I sold them because I saw a post about saving room on the server. I should have them on a cd somewhere and later this afternoon I'll try to find them.

Regarding positioning:
Klaus once paid me a visit in Dallas and thought my marble 9.0 were toed in too much. He adjusted them so they were toed in ever so slightly. Maybe 2 or 3 inches. When my Loreleis arrived he told me to put them in the same spot. It seems that less toe in throws a bit wider soundstage and I assume that's what Klaus likes. Others say that a bit more toe in will provide a bit better focus and bring out the highs and mids a bit more. I used Klaus's setup because he had more experience with them then I did.

Again, congratulations on your purchase. The Loreleis are fine sounding speakers and everyone that saw mine liked the look.
Jeff

jcoat007 · « **Reply #8 on:** 7 Sep 2005, 08:18 pm »

Here's what mine look like close-up.

You will be one happy camper when they arrive!!!!

bunky · « **Reply #9 on:** 15 Sep 2005, 12:38 am »

i got the tracking imformation from Klaus last night for the Loreleis. i must have written down a wrong digit or something and i could not track them through the UPS system so i called Klaus again today when i returned from work and he punched it up on his computer and told me that they were just one state away in Pennsylvania and on schedule for delivery tomorow. man, am i ready to get these speakers into my system.i remember what the UPS did to Bytemes first pair of Loreleis and it makes me shudder to think how i would react if i had that kind of bad luck with my Loreleis. too much negative thinking. im sure they will be Ok. as soon as i return from work tomorow i will get the ball rolling and in no time i will be listening to the sweet voice of the Loreleis. thanks for all the help and encouragement guys!........William Waldecker III