RSAD is announcing the BIGGEST development EVER....

Robert C. Schult · « **on:** 26 Aug 2005, 01:06 pm »

...that will change the world and should win 'fan as a good customer!!!!

Rather than be changed by the world, we're endeavoring to change it! and win a few ayalyticals with a background. No small feet by any stretch!

To these ends, I spent a good 40 minutes Tuesday the 23rd and completely redesigned our Poiema!! cabling. We have stayed the Apocalypse, Chucky "T"s are coming back, I've shaved my head and now we're simply waiting for 'Fan to place his order.

Okay, I'm being bad, I know.

We have spent a good deal of time working with the Poiema!! cabling and trying some new things. Our initial goal was to come up with a Poiema!! beater that would require a new design. So far, that ain't happenin'. What has happened is a change of Silver sourcing, new treatments on a materials level and some beneficial changes in our build materials and build technique. The whole of all this has been applied to the Poiema!! cabling and is greater than the sum of its parts. While the design foundation of the Poiema!! has remained in tact, the upgrades have taken the cabling's performance to a new and substantial performance level.

What to do as for designating all this. Well, I went kind of stupid and pulled the trigger so we now have Poiema!!! or if you prefer, "P"3.

40% promotion is posted for the I/Cs. Speaker Cables and AC Power Delivery Cords will be up soon.

Poiema!!! Interconnects

Poiema!!! Speaker Cables

Poiema!!! AC Power Delivery Cords

Demo Sale

OTHER STUFF:

Z-der BlocK and Bloom Box[/size]

Cable Risers[/size]

Sason Ltd Loudspeaker System[/size]

Cheers!

Marbles · « **Reply #1 on:** 26 Aug 2005, 01:45 pm »

Bob, nice picture of you and the boys.....so you guys lost the bet huh?

Of course 'fan can't spell analytical, the type of chemist he thinks he is, so I wouldn't be trying to hard to impress him....

How do the P3 prices compare to the P!! prices?

Can you tell me how the wire has changed with the new supplier? Less impurities, different impurities, longer grain..you know, that stuff.

How does it compare sonically to my P! speaker cables?

Thanks

Occam · « **Reply #2 on:** 26 Aug 2005, 02:19 pm »

Re: Your Z-der Block and Bloom Boxes....
http://home.comcast.net/~ridgestreetaudio/ZderandBloomImages.html

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How how do you eliminate traditional and expensive power conditioning and it's accompanying drawsbacks without losing the benefits? Make it a non-issue by re-clocking the relationship between the voltage and current that comes out of the wall. Enter the Z-der BlocK or Bloom Box.

An epicure friend was told that a wonderful fish was available in Boston, just brought in fresh by the fishing fleet. He quickly took a cab to Kennedy Airport and then a shuttle to Boston. Arriving in Boston, he jumped into a cab. The cabbie turned around and asked
'Where to buddy?'
My friend excitetedly replied -
'Anywhere I can get scrod!'
The cabbie thought for a second and replied -
'Thats the first time I've heard it in the past pluperfect irregular....'

Absolutely gorgeous wooden boxes and great hyperbole!

Robert C. Schult · « **Reply #3 on:** 26 Aug 2005, 03:51 pm »

Hi Occam.

If you know about Power Factoring it seems you wouldn't perceive the Z-ders as 'bole...No? Don't make me put you on my list of converts

Hi Rob.

The silver we're using now is extruded through diamond dies as opposed to more commonly used carbon dies. One of the benefits is this gives us a better conductor surface that we then work with further here after our polishing process. Another desirable character of our new silver is that our new vender allows us a broader spec frame as to how the silver is processed. This means we can, in a sense, spec the crystal size we want which will minimize other things we don't want in our silver. We've also been able to slightly improve on our silver's "Q" (quality) factor which is independent of its purity.

Rob, I can't compare your "P"! to the "P"!!!. We don't have any "P"!s here and it's been too long since I've heard "P"!s. There is a brief on the ad that goes into a bit of detail on the sonic differences between the "P"!! and "P"!!!. I would ad that with the speaker cables, they allow the speaker/amp interface to energize the air more authoratively. This isn't a matter of "more bass", its more a matter of more efficient power transfer across the audio band. Some of that has to do with timing which the Poiema cabling has always been very good at. I believe the "P"!!! is even better in this regard.

Price increase is between 5% and 7% at MSRP. Very reasonable I think. The speaker cables of the ! and !! were a 9/12 hybrid. The !!!s are an 8ga. symmetrical design. We're doing our best to keep the pricing in the reasonably affordable range but I think we're getting close to the edge. Wished it weren't so. Still, after some comparisons we did earlier this year, I'm certain you could spend more on cables and get less in materials alone than what you get with the !!!s. Performance wise based again on those comparisons, I really believe we're making some of the best. Says I of course but my credibility is on the line when I say that so I better be on spot.

I'll try and bring some of the new toys when I come out to your place in October.

Cheers!

Jon L · « **Reply #4 on:** 26 Aug 2005, 04:31 pm »

Robert, that's great news. But have you considered naming your cables the traditional way like Poiema Mk I, II, III? ! !! !!! system may confuse some people, as I just realized what they mean

JoshK · « **Reply #5 on:** 26 Aug 2005, 04:31 pm »

Quote from: Robert C. Schult

Hi Occam.

If you know about Power Factoring it seems you wouldn't perceive the Z-ders as 'bole...No? Don't make me put you on my list of converts

That'd be like a newly baptized member trying to convert his bishop.

Marbles · « **Reply #6 on:** 26 Aug 2005, 04:33 pm »

Quote from: Jon L

Rick, that's great news. But have you considered naming your cables the traditional way like Poiema Mk I, II, IIi? ! !! !!! system may confuse some people, as I just realized what they mean

Who's Rick???? BTW, nice AVATAR

Jon L · « **Reply #7 on:** 26 Aug 2005, 04:40 pm »

Quote from: Marbles

Quote from: Jon L
Rick, that's great news. But have you considered naming your cables the traditional way like Poiema Mk I, II, IIi? ! !! !!! system may confuse some people, as I just realized what they mean

Who's Rick???? BTW, nice AVATAR

Yeah, who is Rick?. Thanks for pointing that out, now corrected. I just pulled an all-nighter at work, so brain cells are limping along..

Occam · « **Reply #8 on:** 26 Aug 2005, 04:49 pm »

Robert - There was absolutely no criticism of your products, either direct or implied, in my post. If you percieved it as such, I apologize. Nor do I have any issues with bulk, passive pfc. But I did find your use of the term 're-clocking' humorous in that context and one of the better examples of marketing hyperbole. And I can never pass up an opportunity to post an anecdote, no matter how tenuous the relationship.

Those boxes really are gorgeous.

Regards,
Paul

Robert C. Schult · « **Reply #9 on:** 26 Aug 2005, 05:41 pm »

Hi Jon. My 15 year old 6'5"! son's name is Jon. Great Name. Originates from the Hebrew language and, in short, means "God Gives", Gift of (from) God or "God's favor towards you with a view to your giving favor to others". Maybe you already knew that. The Long definition is seen in the manner Jonathan, King David's best friend and confidant, lived his life.

Quote from: Jon L

Robert, that's great news. But have you considered naming your cables the traditional way like Poiema Mk I, II, III? ! !! !!! system may confuse some people, as I just realized what they mean

Well, that seems so predictable or ordinary. I find myself sort of bored for the ordinary and, for things that matter to me, I don't like to follow what I perceive as the same "me too" drum. "Poiema!!!" kind of demands ones attention and "P"3 is unique enough to be out from the herd yet rolls off the tongue nicely. Sort of makes for interesting conversation at the most. Kind of inconsequential stuff to fuss over at the least.

Robert C. Schult · « **Reply #10 on:** 26 Aug 2005, 07:44 pm »

Quote from: Occam

Robert - There was absolutely no criticism of your products, either direct or implied, in my post. If you percieved it as such, I apologize. Nor do I have any issues with bulk, passive pfc. But I did find your use of the term 're-clocking' humorous in that context and one of the better examples of marketing hyperbole. And I can never pass up an opportunity to post an anecdote, no matter how tenuous the relationship.

Those boxes really are gorgeous.

Regards,
Paul

No foul at all Paul.

Seems you have a good fan in your arena. They suggested you might enjoy giving a Z-der a whirl in your system. I thought it was a good suggestion. You game?

Okay, here's the part where everybody has to go away. 'Fan, go to your background and play with your chemistry set. This is just for Paul. Good, the rest of you are gone. Paul, I understand what you're saying about the re-clocking term. One of my methods of communication as a wary and hopefully somewhat wise business guy is to craft what I say carefully. For the sake of not throwing the baby out and eating it too I try not to say things the same way everyone else would. So long as I'm being honest with my "unique" terms and so forth, I believe there's a lot of virtue in that as I assume you can imagine. Not trying to baffle with Bullshit, though I'm probably perceived that way sometimes. I enjoy answering people's questions and giving them info but I try to do so on my terms where there's cake in the bath water. I'm not particularly interested in making it easy to be copied by curious and opportunist eyes. Already seen that twice I believe. So, I try to be a little entertaining and informative enough to motivate folks to give our products a try which is where the real pudding is. Maybe I'm too paranoid...I don't know one way or another. I do know that except for one instance, we've not lead anybody astray, we've never hurt anyone and Ridge Street Audio has never been hurt. So, there must be some validity to methodness I'm mad at. Hope I didn't selfishly ramble too much and there was some benefit for you in this.

Cheeps!

Occam · « **Reply #11 on:** 26 Aug 2005, 09:02 pm »

Robert,

I hear ya.... I really don't object to marketing hyperbole at all. The only time I go upside someone's head is when I think they're blowing smoke up someone's arse, which I didn't get from you at all. When you used the term 're-clocking' with regards to power, I immediately knew at least one of the things you're doing internally (I think). Its a fine line you must walk in marketing with trying to convey the qualities of you product, while not disclosing too much to potential copycats.

While I'd love to borrow a Z-der for subjective evaluation, my curiosity would compell me to pull out a LC meter, PF instrumentation.... I'm the mod of the Lab board, and my particular interests and projects include power conditioning. It would be like putting a 4 year old diabetic in a candy store.
As St. Augustine said -
'Lord!, make me pure, but not just yet.'

I'm certainly game, but given my prurient interests, I don't think it wise.....

Many thanks,
Paul

PS - your eldest looks remarkably like my youngest, including the hair and 6 pack. I guess if I looked like that, I walk around shirtless too.

lonewolfny42 · « **Reply #12 on:** 27 Aug 2005, 03:24 pm »

Hello Robert,

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ALMOST CUT MY HAIR
David Crosby

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Almost cut my hair
It happened just the other day
It was getting kind of long
I could have said it was in my way

But I didn't and I wonder why
I feel like letting my freak flag fly
And I feel like I owe it to someone

Must be because I had the flu for Christmas
And I'm not feeling up to par
It increases my paranoia
Like looking into a mirror and seeing a police car

But I'm not giving in an inch to fear
Cos I promised myself this year
I feel like I owe it to someone

When I finally get myself together
I'm gonna get down in some of that sweet summer weather
I'm going to find a space inside to laugh
Separate the wheat from the chaff

Cos I feel like I owe it, yeah
Said I feel like I owe it, yeah
You know I feel---- like I owe it yeah to someone

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Chris[/list:u]

Robert C. Schult · « **Reply #13 on:** 29 Aug 2005, 10:36 am »

Bump. Original Post Eidited with updated links.

Thanks for the call on Friday Paul. I really enjoyed talking with you.

Hi Chris.

Won't be at RMAF. My loss. Maybe our gain next year.
On another note...A long time ago you sent me a recording of some guitar music. The music room has been up for sometime (still some odds and ends to do but...) but, for the life of me, that one CD has dissapeared and I can't find it. I remember you wanted my thoughts on it and as I remember playing it in the shop I thought this will be nice to hear in the music room. Was that a collection you put together or can I buy the CD somewhere?

lonewolfny42 · « **Reply #14 on:** 30 Aug 2005, 02:43 am »

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On another note...A long time ago you sent me a recording of some guitar music. The music room has been up for sometime (still some odds and ends to do but...) but, for the life of me, that one CD has dissapeared and I can't find it. I remember you wanted my thoughts on it and as I remember playing it in the shop I thought this will be nice to hear in the music room. Was that a collection you put together or can I buy the CD somewhere?

Chris[/list:u]

Robert C. Schult · « **Reply #15 on:** 3 Oct 2005, 02:54 pm »

Hey All....

Links updated and a few things added. See original post on page one of this thread.

Cheers!