And I love both SACD and DVD-A. These are two of the all time biggest, needless tragedies in the history of consumer electronics. No exposure. No advertising. No nothing. Is it any wonder neither of these ever took off? They were never given a chance to begin with.
That's the problem, the porn industry didn't weigh in on that one 
Ah, that explains it!
I came to the conclusion about the breaking of the PS3, because I knew quite a few people who had to repurchase a PS2.
I also know plenty of people, including myself, who have had a PS2 and Xbox both work perfectly since launch day.
For M$ to include HD-DVD would have been putting the cart before the horse. It is not a viable, mass market off the shelf item yet. Remember they are coming to market 6 months before $ony.
Exactly!
I remember the mass market of Beta, and that failed as well. The early adopters were the rich kids parents in my home town. Then when us poor folk were in the market, there was the not so great but cheap VHS.
Betmax never saw the kind of easy, mass market penetration BR is going to be the beneficiary of via the PS3. Betamax also never saw the cheap and easy mass market penetration that DVD enjoyed a boost from via the PS2 starting in the year 2000.
This is a straw man argument. See my sig link?
Admiral Hirohito, knew not to wake a sleeping giant. If M$ thinks that it will lose because of Blue-Ray ($ony), they will throw in a hell of a lot more chips into the kitty to make HD-DVD the compatible format for Windows and the cheap box top DVD players.
No. MS doesn't care about HD-DVD. That's Toshiba's baby. And like everyone else, they wisely have their finger in the breeze to see which way the wind is going to blow. They knew well enough to invest in something so obviously dubious.
If anything, an even better question would be: Why didn't MS go ahead and throw in WMv/HD support and maybe consider getting together with InPhase and look at a holographic drive? Any of these things can be run right away off of EXISTING red laser technology.
Hell, if the Xbox360 would run WMV/HD, heck, even I'd break down and buy a few titles. This could have been a nice little watershed for MS to support THEIR OWN PROPRIETARY format, and they didn't bother with that.
This IS about the games first and the gaming console world. HD-DVD, BR, anything like that is all bonus material.
But Sony is going outside of just that realm with the inclusion of BR, so that suddenly puts the home theater and audio/video enthusiast on the docket, in addition to "just the gamers." Like I said, I know plenty of non-gamers who are all set to buy their PS3's for 1080p dual HDMI Blu-Ray and will laugh with glee if it "only" costs $500.
Xbox 360's success or failure will have nothing to do with BR's success or failure.
M$ has way to much riding on this generation console war to play the patsy. Hence all the purchase configurations available in just the first run of the xbox360.
Wow, all 2?
A little hyerbole here.
Frankly, I think MS made a mistake here. They should have made on Xbox360, with the hard drive so everyone from gamer to developer could count on that, stick to one MSRP and people that want it will either buy it or not.
All of this is conjecture and hyperbole as is all the articles I have read. You can't write history books before it happens.
Well, I'm sorry if the facts aren't to your liking. All of those links, all of those bolded items, all of those company names....THAT is hyperbole and conjecture?!
How about the latest issues of just about any leading AV or HT magazine that you care to choose? I named two of them. WSR 101 and Home Theater Magazine.
So, you mean to tell me that the over 4 pages of hard news, including more names, facts and figures, in the front news section of WSR 101 is all "conjecture and hyperbole" as well? Wow. Have you looked at those yet?
If you wish, you can even go to the websites for any of these leading magazines and see headlines and links to plenty of free material that backs up everything I've written in this thread, and then some.
I guess if you read something you don't care for or agree with, it's your call to dismiss it as "hyperole" or not. When company names, facts, figures, and dates suddenly become hyperbole, I'm lost at that point. I don't know what else to say to that.
If THAT is the case, then this next request should be child's play for you:
Directly quote the unfactual material and refute it with something concrete and meaningful, if you can. Please.
Hells Bells I just read an article about the new Nintendo, that was supposed to be from a reliable source (he had correctly written about the 360 specs well before it was officially unveiled). He states that the components in the new Mario machine, could give the 360 a run for it's money. But the Nintendo Pres had earlier stipulated that they were not going after $ony nor M$ hardware muscle, but by controller innovation and games.
The Nintendo system is barely a step up from vaporware at this point.
The irony of this whole thing is:
Nintendo is the same company that never bothered to:
1.) Give their GameCube DD 5.1, even though they easily could have.
2.) Digital video out? Even THIS got phased out latter pressed GC's. So much for Pro Scan, right?
3.) They put out a $50 Broadband Adapter that ends up being useful for exactly one game: Phantasy Star Online. From there, if it had been left up to just Nintendo, a $50 Internet BBA would have joined the 20 year scrap heap of useless peripherals that Nintendo has put out since the days of R.O.B. back in the 1980's.
4.) Only Nintendo can live in a vacuum where things like the Internet, HDTV, and DD 5.1 are "niche fads not worthy of attention or support." They continue to be at least 5-10 years behind the times.
That trend of poor and mind boggling business decisions began when the ended the potential partnership with Sony on the original PlayStation and stuck with expensive cartridges on the N64 while everyone else left the Stone Age went to CD. The rest is history.
They're completely out of touch. Somehow, they still hold this arrogance that carries over from their NES and SNES days and it just doesn't float.
Nintendo does whatever the hell THEY want, not what the fans or customers want, at least as far as their consoles go. You either like it or you don't.
I so wish that they would stop having their consoles play distant second fiddle to their handhelds, in terms of energy, marketing, and most importantly, SOFTWARE SUPPORT.
Ironically, the company that prides itself on innovative software (their best strength, by far)... suddenly is throwing around the word "Revolution" like cheap candy because they were able to take a small TV remote control and attach it with yarn to a motion sensor. Wow. Whooptie-f'n-do. My friends and I did that back in fourth grade except we accidentally smashed our TV remotes and got punished severely for it.
If THAT is the best "innovation" Nintendo can come up with, and yet they're fudging on an easy call like including HD support in their next system...forget it.
I'm not impressed. I'll believe it when I see it.
