My Pride arived today

silversurfer · « **Reply #20 on:** 2 Aug 2005, 08:13 pm »

The only land of beer is Belgium. Period.

Florian · « **Reply #21 on:** 2 Aug 2005, 08:31 pm »

No way, Bavaria/Germany is also LAND of the BEER!!!

arrakian · « **Reply #22 on:** 3 Aug 2005, 05:02 am »

I can buy a six-pack of beer at 4 am; we're the land of beer

It's good to see the Pathos up close.

WerTicus · « **Reply #23 on:** 3 Aug 2005, 06:36 am »

eeekk commercial beer is terrible. home brew is far superior if you know 2 things, dont use normal sugar and dont use anything but reverse osmosis water.

Florian · « **Reply #24 on:** 3 Aug 2005, 08:38 am »

The Pathos is an amazing amp and very pretty. In my opinion the best under 4K what i heard so far.

PS: I dont need to buy a beer at 4AM, i already have 3 crates downstairs

Florian · « **Reply #25 on:** 3 Aug 2005, 08:57 am »

This is why we are the land of the beer !!!!

NealH · « **Reply #26 on:** 3 Aug 2005, 11:07 am »

Ahhh, now that picture reminds me of sitting in the Hofbrahause in Munich singing the songs of the Bravarian countrymen. And the beer just kept on coming.

lonewolfny42 · « **Reply #27 on:** 3 Aug 2005, 11:35 am »

Hey Flo....Looks like "Happy Hour"....buy 6, get 6 more.... send them to my table....

arrakian · « **Reply #28 on:** 3 Aug 2005, 06:09 pm »

Florian,

I apologize. Yours is indeed "The Land Of Beer"!!!

How much power does thec Pathos put out?

Florian · « **Reply #29 on:** 3 Aug 2005, 09:33 pm »

HEHE

The Pathos puts about very cute 55wpc. But behold, these are no "normal" 55watts.

-Flo

arrakian · « **Reply #30 on:** 4 Aug 2005, 03:49 am »

What do you mean? It's not all tube, and tubes are the only amps I know of that "over-achieve".

ekovalsky · « **Reply #31 on:** 4 Aug 2005, 05:50 am »

Quote from: Florian

This is why we are the land of the beer !!!!

If that is the Land of Beer, I'll stick with my Fat Tire Ale served by some nice old fashioned American barmaids

Florian · « **Reply #32 on:** 4 Aug 2005, 08:58 am »

Damn !!

But women or beer.....mmmm beer

arrakian · « **Reply #33 on:** 4 Aug 2005, 10:40 am »

Quote from: ekovalsky

If that is the Land of Beer, I'll stick with my Fat Tire Ale served by some nice old fashioned American barmaids

Those aren't barmaids; those are appetizers!!!

Florian · « **Reply #34 on:** 6 Aug 2005, 09:54 pm »

Mmmh, they are on the house right?

Bingenito · « **Reply #35 on:** 6 Aug 2005, 10:02 pm »

Whors d'oeuvre anyone?

BrunoB · « **Reply #36 on:** 8 Aug 2005, 05:39 pm »

At the end of July, I had the opportunity to stop by Florian in Bavaria, Germany. I was expecting to listen to a pair of VMPS RM30, but instead, I was pleasantly surprised to see two Apogee Diva. This was the first time I saw a planar/ribbon loudspeaker. I have listened to about five different sound systems (Carlman, Hometheaterdoc, Inscrutable, Rick Craig, Lensman, …) while living in North Carolina. This is the first time that I was really impressed by someone else's system.
My first impression was that it sounded similar to my own system: this is the sound of ribbons! Secondly, I noticed the stability of the image. I could move and turn my head without big sonic changes. My own system is not good in this respect. I have two VMPS 626R beaming at the listener's ears from a short distance (5.5 feet).

Florian was playing music louder than I am used to. After a few minutes, I got used to the high volume without any pain or listening fatigue. That surprised me because there is not much acoustic treatment. I played one of my favorite CD: the soundtrack from the PC game Outcast. The orchestral impact was so strong that I could feel the hair raising on my neck. Something I did no like about the sound was the bass: too much and too boomy. I asked Florian to turn off the subwoofer. At first, he did not understand my request, which is perfectly understandable: there was no sub! The ribbons generated all the bass. My guess is that another bass trap would be helpful, or may be the room is too small for these speakers. Florian, have you checked the room modes?
The treble is smooth but I noticed a small grain (comb filtering between the ribbons?). Compared to the other line-array I had the chance to listen to (Selah Audio Linus 3), I like the Diva's much better. On the other hand, my own system (modded 626R + "Sound Cocoon") has an edge in speed and image focus thanks to all the foam surrounding the listener.

I hope to visit Florian again, may be next time have a beer discussion …

Bruno

Florian · « **Reply #37 on:** 8 Aug 2005, 05:48 pm »

Quote from: BrunoB

At the end of July, I had the opportunity to stop by Florian in Bavaria, Germany. I was expecting to listen to a pair of VMPS RM30, but instead, I was pleasantly surprised to see two Apogee Diva. This was the first time I saw a planar/ribbon loudspeaker. I have listened to about five different sound systems (Carlman, Hometheaterdoc, Inscrutable, Rick Craig, Lensman, …) while living in North Carolina. This is the first time that I was really impressed by someone else's system.
My first impression was tha ...

The problem with the bass is usually the recordings and the DIVA in my small room. My speaker compared to most other, actually MOVE air. You listend to the DIVA on a small Pathos Acoustics Classic ONE which is DEFINETLY not for the DIVA. At 55 Watt per channel we are about 150 short

Also the DIVA moves between 3-5Ohm wich the Pathos cant handle. The big Sphinx Combo changes the sound dramitcally and the hint of grain is gone since there is no more stress, the soundstage opens up and there is a lot more speed. Altough they are definetly faster than the 626 or RM30

. Also bass traps are no use for Apogees and should be removed since Apogees are designed to minimize room nodes, i did buy them for the RM30. The passive crossovers alow me to turn down the bass, but this is not a issue anymore with the Sphinx. The biggest problem of the DIVA is that its a brutally honest speaker and if your source, electronics are not 100% it will show. Next time, i hope to have more time and i will turn off the phone

-Flo