626Rs at the Midwest Audio Fest

JoshK · « **Reply #20 on:** 10 Apr 2003, 10:55 pm »

the mapleshade stands look nice and interesting but atrociously expensive for what they are IMO.

Sedona Sky Sound · « **Reply #21 on:** 11 Apr 2003, 01:09 am »

Hello John,
Here is the picture of a 626r sitting on a New Original sub as requested.

Brian is definitely the expert here, but there may be some small issues sonically about putting an uncoupled mid/high on top of a sub. At the very least you would want to put some thin "non-slip" rubber matting between the two to reduce vibration and slip.

Also, I would personally advise against putting anything of value on a sub that was not stuck down extremely well. The VMPS subs are extremely heavy but it is amazing how quickly things can "walk" when the music is pumping (a friend of mine vibrated a lead crystal vase off a cabinet that was on the other side of the wall from his music room!!!).

Best of luck.

Julian
www.sedonaskysound.com

rosconey · « **Reply #22 on:** 11 Apr 2003, 10:26 am »

i have a pic of my speakers on a vmps large sub in my gallery.(not vmps speakers but the same size as 626r)

jdoyle · « **Reply #23 on:** 11 Apr 2003, 06:00 pm »

Julian, Thanks for the pic. Actually, I was hoping to see the 626 on the dedicated sub (not as wide and taller than your orig. sub). But thanks anyway. I was also wondering if Brian had any comments on placing 2 626's together (one on top of another).

Thanks,

John

John Casler · « **Reply #24 on:** 11 Apr 2003, 09:11 pm »

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I was also wondering if Brian had any comments on placing 2 626's together (one on top of another).
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Hi John,

Although I have not discussed the positioning of the tweeters (if they are close enough when stacked) with Brian, but apparantly he alluded to the possiblity somewhere and Doug mentions it in the post below from HD.

Doug S. said the following:

brian cheney *did* say that a pair of 626r's per side, w/the top one stacked upside-down on the bottom one, on short stands, to get the tweets at ear level, would work quite nicely, assuming proper bracing, etc...

http://www.harmonicdiscord.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5902&highlight=stacked+626r

Regards,

John Casler

VMPS LA CA USA
SUMMIT Audio Video
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UTLaw · « **Reply #25 on:** 12 Apr 2003, 01:21 am »

Now we have several versions of a 626R setup floating around...

- 626R on solid stand
- 626R on sub
- 626R on top of a 626R(flipped) then sitting on either a solid stand or sub
- 626R on the floor titled on the bedrock stand from MapleShade

Ok, Bryan... Care to comment???

Brian Cheney · « **Reply #26 on:** 12 Apr 2003, 01:55 am »

Any system that uses the maximum number of 626's is OK by me. Don't forget to biamp. That stacked idea sounds good. Let's see, 7.1 channels, stacked and biamped all around, 15 amp channels, 14 626's, 12x15 room, sounds right....

Jay S · « **Reply #27 on:** 12 Apr 2003, 02:11 am »

My room is about 60% bigger by volume. Is it possible to stack the RM40s? How many New Larger subs are needed?

John Casler · « **Reply #28 on:** 12 Apr 2003, 02:21 am »

To stack RM40s it is better to stack them horizontally.

In a large room you can stack several pair.

If you reverse the woofers you do not need subs.

This cures all dispersion anomalies and enlarges the "sweat seat"

I would suggest at least SP45 or else you may get a bad burn.

I don't dare sign this

sharper · « **Reply #29 on:** 14 Apr 2003, 11:52 pm »

I see everyone's at audiocircle now. So that's where all the cool kids went.

So, what's the verdict from the weekend with the 626R's with Auricaps and the FST tweeter? New tweeter make a big improvement over the stock ?

Ernest · « **Reply #30 on:** 15 Apr 2003, 12:02 am »

Quote from: sharper

New tweeter make a big improvement over the stock ?

To my ears, YES! A very big improvement. The new tweeter is just so sweet!

Woodsea · « **Reply #31 on:** 15 Apr 2003, 12:52 am »

When I left, the new FSTs were still happily ringing in my ears. Can't wait to get them fitted into my trio. A few days later, and with my LRC playing thru logic7, I love them the ribbon tweeter. Just need seems that more power and the norh LaII's x4 may just be about right this summer. If you didn't get it by now, I vascilate alot, cause I am
A. Poor
B. Cheap
C. Choosy
D. All of the above

D
Wish I could afford the stratos ht3 or the Radii.
But if I were to purchase the speakers all over again the FST, auricap and soundcoat would be no-brainers. But by no means with my 3 front speakers are they slouches in the least

-Eric

jdoyle · « **Reply #32 on:** 15 Apr 2003, 09:27 pm »

Not to beat a dead horse here, but...

Which is the recommended setup? (please weigh value for the buck)

2 626R's on solid stands with a single dedicated sub on the side.

2 626R's on top of dedicated subs.

4 626 R's 2 on a small solid stand, one on top of the other, but upside down.

Also, should the 626R on top of the dedicated sub be upside down?

Thanks,

John

chiahaochang · « **Reply #33 on:** 16 Apr 2003, 12:27 am »

Quote from: Wayne1

The BOLDER Cable Company will be showing and playing the latest version of the VMPS 626R with the FST tweeter at the Midwest Audio Fest.

I missed the Midwest Audio Fest this year.

I was hoping on going as I wanted to hear (any) VMPS speakers in person. I'm sort of in the market for new toys- er, audio gear. Since I live in Columbus (OH), Lima isn't all that far from me, I just didn't find out about the Fest in time.

I haven't tweaked/upgraded/changed my system in nearly 3 years, it's about time I start messing with it again!

I've known about VMPS for a while and after reading the review of the RM2s in Listener (RIP) last year, I decided that I had to hear them in person... I guess I missed an easy chance. I was considering the RM40s more than the 626's, but the RM40s maybe too big for my room right now.

Anyways, anyone near Columbus who's got VMPS's willing to let me go over to hear them?

Woodsea · « **Reply #34 on:** 16 Apr 2003, 12:42 am »

I live in Columbus, we can probably figure something out.

chiahaochang · « **Reply #35 on:** 25 Apr 2003, 02:46 am »

Quote from: Woodsea

I live in Columbus, we can probably figure something out.

Woodsea, you have a PM. Thanks.

John Casler · « **Reply #36 on:** 25 Apr 2003, 02:54 am »

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Which is the recommended setup? (please weigh value for the buck)

2 626R's on solid stands with a single dedicated sub on the side.

2 626R's on top of dedicated subs.

4 626 R's 2 on a small solid stand, one on top of the other, but upside down.

Also, should the 626R on top of the dedicated sub be upside down?

I think when reality sets in, the best set up is:

A pair of 626R/FSTs vertically (and normally oriented) sitting atop a pair of Dedicated Subs.

Regards,

John Casler

VMPS LA CA USA
SUMMIT Audio Video
310-446-0138
800-320-6884 (order desk)
bioforce.inc@gte.net
http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?action=systems;system=72
http://my.register.com/summitaudiovideo.com/index.html

James Romeyn · « **Reply #37 on:** 28 May 2003, 05:07 am »

Quote from: John Casler

They are especially good if they have a "slant" to them for the bass wave to slide down...

John
Slant toward listener or away? I thought the beard sounded better on the back panel where the port is, vs. the front. Have you tried both positions?

James Romeyn · « **Reply #38 on:** 28 May 2003, 05:14 am »

I inverted one 626R & placed it atop the other. It sounded pretty awful.
Could well be the tweeter spacing, which is much greater than ideal.

John Casler · « **Reply #39 on:** 29 May 2003, 01:03 am »

Quote from: RibbonSpeakers.net

Quote from: John Casler

They are especially good if they have a "slant" to them for the bass wave to slide down...

John
Slant toward listener or away? I thought the beard sounded better on the back panel where the port is, vs. the front. Have you tried both positions?

The beard Brian is talking about is on the front, but with a rear port it might also help the rear wave of the port, but probably not to the same degree.

The launch of the cone created wave is already traveling down (as well as all around) since the path of least resistance is a 360 degree wave launch.

The air in front of the cone is compressed and the air around the circumference of the cone offers the least resistance, so the wave is forced to expand in all directions.

The beard below the speaker keeps the wave from folding back under the speaker (like in an open stand) and it then travels down the beard to the floor and then travels along the floor to you.

On the rear port, the bass wave is not created as in the cone. It is "shoved out in a column. Much like a pulsing fountain. Since this pulse too sets all the air in motion around it, it might benefit from a beard too.

That leads us to a solid sided pedestal as probably offering the best performance.