GR Research diffusion panels vs standard wood QRD etc

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Glady86

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Anyone switch to GR diffusers after using other types? Thinking of trying some of the GR offerings.

This is the arrangement I have now that makes the speakers disappear, more spacious sounding. Though I don’t care for the looks. At least I might try GR diffuser for in front of the tv for listening to music.

NIGHTFALL1970

Re: GR Research diffusion panels vs standard wood QRD etc
« Reply #1 on: 26 Jun 2025, 02:48 am »
I switched from Sonex over to Danny’s diffusers. I find small details more noticeable. The soundstage has opened up and placement of instruments is more apparent. I am finally hearing my GR Bullies instead of my room. I highly recommend them. I don’t know how they compare to the ones that you have. They look nice, but I bet they are heavy.




Glady86

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« Reply #2 on: 26 Jun 2025, 05:32 pm »
Looks like you went all out, full room coverage. It should have made quite an improvement. My room is only 7 feet high with the drop ceiling. So not a huge amount of wall space. I Insulated between the rafters and the ceiling tiles are meant for home theater, so have some absorbing properties. I focused on placing the diffusers in line with midrange and tweeter MTM. Not sure if it’s the right way, but it’s an improvement compared to bare walls.

I might order one box of the 4 foot long diffuser to experiment with.

tomlinmgt

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« Reply #3 on: 26 Jun 2025, 10:04 pm »
The deeper wells and wider faces of the slats on your QRD's will operate over a more broad spectral range than the GR Research diffusers. But, with the GR Research diffusers, you can cover more surface area for less money. So if you're trying to eliminate as much specular reflection activity as possible, the GR Research units are likely the better (more economical) solution. If you have specific areas you're targeting for diffusion...primary reflection vectors, in particular...the QRD's, with their more broadband performance, will be the better option.

Glady86

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« Reply #4 on: 27 Jun 2025, 09:53 pm »
Thanks for the info guys. I was in a tweaking frenzy last two days, every once in a while I like to experiment and try and improve the system. I couldn’t stand the look of those extra QRD diffusers I tried so took them away. Instead I focused on repositioning the speakers. I moved them a little further out from both the sidewalls and front wall and subs in line along the outside of the speakers and more toe in. Similar to how I’ve seen others set them up. I got more balanced frequency response and more focused imaging and better depth. The way I had them before the stage was a little wider bet less focused.

I’ll enjoy this sound for a while and at some point, revisit adding more panels.
 
 

Glady86

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« Reply #5 on: 27 Jun 2025, 10:34 pm »
 I noticed music that is recorded with excellent soundstage effects is much better after repositioning, the wider positioning I think was just adding more reflection or reverb that wasn’t part of the recording or as accurate to the recording, does that make sense?
 
 

NIGHTFALL1970

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« Reply #6 on: 28 Jun 2025, 04:51 am »
Yes. The room can do that. I am hearing music that I have listened to all my life, and hearing it in ways that I never did.

Glady86

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« Reply #7 on: 28 Jun 2025, 05:00 pm »
I’m glad I messed with my setup. It’s hard to make the NX Oticas sound bad. They always sounded good with the different locations I tried, was never sure how good they can sound. My new location is 80” from the front wall to the baffle, 80 inches between them measured to the center of the drivers and 37 inches from the side wall measured to the center of the drives. Toe in pointing somewhat to the outside of my shoulders sitting about ten feet back.  I wrote this Just In case it could help others dial in their speakers.

For some reason I can’t post a picture anymore. “Server error”

Tyson

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« Reply #8 on: 28 Jun 2025, 05:13 pm »
Here's another tip - Put something under the rear feet of the Oticas so they are actually level instead of tilted back.  You'll get more detail.

Glady86

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« Reply #9 on: Yesterday at 02:00 am »
  They already have plenty of detail, definitely not lacking having them level. It’s one of the aspects of sound quality these do much better than anything I owned before. Changing the positioning enhanced the resolution and clarity of the midrange and highs. But I’ll try it sometime and see what happens.