Audio (Hearing Aid)

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Craig Young

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Audio (Hearing Aid)
« on: 29 Dec 2024, 10:36 pm »
I just bought a good set of hearing aids non-prescription type, but over the counter type. Wow what a difference my music listening is so much better. Actually the world sounds better. Costco sells a better set and costs less than their store consumer model. Ok what I bought was Jabra Enhance Select 500 and my second day experience is just great.

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« Reply #1 on: 26 Mar 2025, 05:11 am »
I mentioned this before on a post. With my Smart Phone Samsung A13. in the Settings open Sounds & Vibrations and scroll down to Sound Quality and Effects, Open that, then go to Adapt Sound and Open that. then take the hearing test and Adapt the sound to your hearing.

I have mine set to Sound Profile 01 which if I remember correct is for like 60+. It will boost frequencies that you can't hear well, etc.. In addition to that you can use the Equalizer. If I'm Streaming with Amazon I set it to Normal and use the Equalizer on Amazon Mobile App. If I'm Streaming with Youtube then I change the Equalizer on the phone from Normal to another setting like Rock, to fit the music.

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« Reply #2 on: 26 Mar 2025, 12:57 pm »
I haven't tried the Jabra yet. I bought my second-ever pair fromCostco a couple months ago - made by Philips - and they still aren't as good as my old worn out pair even after three adjustments. In the last couple days, I decided I will return them, and either try the Jabra hearing aids or try much more expensive ones.

I don't wear hearing aids while listening to music. I wear them for conversations and video/TV.

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« Reply #3 on: 26 Mar 2025, 01:37 pm »
I finally listened to my wife last year and had a hearing test. It showed that I had some fairly significant high-frequency roll-off (they didn't call it that!), so I researched hearing aids for music listening and found the Widex Moment 400s.
I don't wear them much for listening to music, but I have noted a major reduction in my tinnitus AFTER wearing them for a while. I've read that some people believe that tinnitus can result from the brain "replacing" frequencies that the ears can no longer hear, so perhaps wearing hearing aids that actually recover those lost frequencies tells the brain that it doesn't have to do that???

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« Reply #4 on: 26 Mar 2025, 03:23 pm »
The Hearing Aid Forum has a few threads on audio and music:
https://forum.hearingtracker.com/categories

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« Reply #5 on: 27 Mar 2025, 02:18 am »
The Hearing Aid Forum has a few threads on audio and music:
https://forum.hearingtracker.com/categories

Thanks for the link.  My wife has major hearing loss.  I finally got her to an audiologist and ENT. :D

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« Reply #6 on: 27 Mar 2025, 03:03 am »
The Hearing Aid Forum has a few threads on audio and music:
https://forum.hearingtracker.com/categories

Ditto.   Thanks much for posting the link.  I finally had my hearing checked last month.  No surprise that I need to get serious about hearing aids but it’s a bit daunting to get started.  I certainly don’t want to make the same mistakes with hearing aids as I’ve made buying the wrong hifi gear. 
The airpod/similar route is somewhat intriguing but I’ve made the OTC hearing aid mistake also.  Anyway the forum looks to be a good place to get started.

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« Reply #7 on: 2 May 2025, 07:52 pm »
I went to an audiologist doctor and I got my new Oticon yesterday. I am amazed by the difference in how my music  sounds now. I could never imagine that my Otica's and double trouble sounded so good. My doctor's analysis is that my loss is medium, it is bad but not severe loss.

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« Reply #8 on: 3 May 2025, 10:25 am »
I have a 88ish old father who is losing his hearing. He has suffered with mild tinnitus for his entire life and began to really have hearing loss issues at about the age of 80. He tried a few of the "As Seen on TV" hearing aids with nothing but disappointment. Then he went to a Hearing Specialist and tried the hearing aids that they recommended...still nothing but disappointment.  But now he has found something that really work...Apple Airpods. He says that they are vastly superior to anything else he has tried and likes the flexibility that the Airpod app provides.

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« Reply #9 on: 3 May 2025, 09:42 pm »
With my new hearing aids on and my Susvara driven by Formula S amp, the magic is not there. Audiophile's describe so concise how the music is presenting itself to their ears, mind, inner spirit all of which is what I wanted to taste. With these new hearing aids I believe that I am experiencing it and I love it. So currently I am correcting with convolution filters in roon but I will be setting up panels for my room correction and then there is quality cables.

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« Reply #10 on: 4 May 2025, 05:00 am »
I’m about 2 weeks into my first set of prescription hearing aids.  They won’t work magic, some stuff will remain unintelligible, but life is better with.  I’ve not attempted any critical listening, but music in general does sound fuller with them in.
If half of what hearing aids do is boost frequencies to compensate for loss, it does make me wonder if replicating the hearing aid program using a graphic equalizer would do the same for music as the HA do for all other sounds of life.

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« Reply #11 on: 4 May 2025, 03:07 pm »
You can hook a hearing aid TV adapter to your audio pre-amp output and dispense with the loudspeakers.

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« Reply #12 on: 4 May 2025, 04:12 pm »
The earmold that I used with my Jabra's was tulip type which was blocking too much of the outside world. I read about using an open type of earmold and let the speaker sound come thru, this made a difference for me and my system began to take on a new flavor.

Mariusz Uszynski

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« Reply #13 on: 4 May 2025, 04:39 pm »
I’m about 2 weeks into my first set of prescription hearing aids.  They won’t work magic, some stuff will remain unintelligible, but life is better with.  I’ve not attempted any critical listening, but music in general does sound fuller with them in.
If half of what hearing aids do is boost frequencies to compensate for loss, it does make me wonder if replicating the hearing aid program using a graphic equalizer would do the same for music as the HA do for all other sounds of life.

Hi Allan, congratulations on getting prescription HA (hearing aid), I truly hope so, you purchased BTE (behind the ear), because they lot better, when it comes to sound quality, than ITE (in the ear).But, you are not out of the woods yet, my Red Riding Hood, lol.Based on my "journey through the woods", 6 years, 4 pairs of HA, 1 clueless audiologist, 1 decent audiologist and finally, 3th brilliant audiologist, who happen to also be a music lover, I'll share my experience with you, to get you out of the woods, faster and painless.

1.VOLUME; I'm sure, your audiologist put you into the booth and check your hearing.Then, he took those measurements and installed them onto your HA.In my experience, it was way too loud, way overamplified, so he lower the volume to 70%.Good audiologist knows that, clueless not so much, lol.This way, you don't have to adjust the volume, to comfortable level all the time, you put them on.

2.PROGRAMS; there are 4 (AUTOMATIC, MUSIC, RESTAURANT, TV).You go into any program and you can customize them to your liking, making your own SUBPROGRAMS with equalizer, you can add or cut TREBLE and BASS, you can also rename them.When you put on your HA, it automatically goes into AUTOMATIC mode, but mine goes into custom MUSIC mode, the program my audiologist created for me, I like it that way.
Why 4 programs you ask?They all sound different and you can switch them within app, on your phone.For example, if you are in the restaurant and you switch to RESTAURANT mode, it cuts all the noise around you, but not the voices of the people around your table, it's that good.My family is mostly european (Polish), Easter Sunday we sitting in the very nice restaurant and there is another european family, talking very loudly, making everybody in the restaurant uncomfortable, but me.So I'm laughing and my ex-wife and kids go, what's so funny?I go, I can't really hear the screamers, but I can perfectly hear all of you around me.To be honest, my nation can be as noisy too, so it's all good, lol.

3.BLUETOOTH; works well with phone conversation, but the range is very poor, if you compare it to Airpods Pro (for example).The same, when it comes to listenning to the music from your phone.It has AMBIENT BALANCE mode, which is simular to NOISE CANCELLATION mode, but not even close, when it comes to quality.Basically, indoor listenning to the music is ok, but outdoor terrible, for walks I use my beloved Airpads Pro 2.

4.DOMES or EARPIECES (same thing, different name); I came across 3 kinds (OPEN DOMES, VENTED DOMES, POWER DOMES).You have to experiment with those too, size wise.I use the POWER DOMES, because I find them the BEST!!!!!

5.MAINTENANCE; very important to clean them, keep them out of wet, always check your ears, before shower.Every so often, you have to replace FILTERS or EARWAX PROTECTION (again, different name, the same thing), You'll hear the difference, with new filters, guaranteed.

6.OVERALL; For 28 years, I was exposed to 3 mills, 10 autoclaves, 4 presses and 4-6 towmotors, Dante's Infero was like vacation resort, compare to my fucking job.My spine (4 disks) and hearing got damaged, I have to take painkillers.So, is my life better with HA, hell yes!!!
I can enjoy my music, TV or conversation.But there are days, when I don't wear them, I want to be free of them and my audiologist says, that's normal and there is nothing wrong with that.










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« Reply #14 on: 4 May 2025, 08:40 pm »
Hi Allan, congratulations on getting prescription HA (hearing aid), I truly hope so, you purchased BTE (behind the ear), because they lot better, when it comes to sound quality, than ITE (in the ear).But, you are not out of the woods yet, my Red Riding Hood, lol.Based on my "journey through the woods", 6 years, 4 pairs of HA, 1 clueless audiologist, 1 decent audiologist and finally, 3th brilliant audiologist, who happen to also be a music lover, I'll share my experience with you, to get you out of the woods, faster and painless.

1.VOLUME; I'm sure, your audiologist put you into the booth and check your hearing.Then, he took those measurements and installed them onto your HA.In my experience, it was way too loud, way overamplified, so he lower the volume to 70%.Good audiologist knows that, clueless not so much, lol.This way, you don't have to adjust the volume, to comfortable level all the time, you put them on.

2.PROGRAMS; there are 4 (AUTOMATIC, MUSIC, RESTAURANT, TV).You go into any program and you can customize them to your liking, making your own SUBPROGRAMS with equalizer, you can add or cut TREBLE and BASS, you can also rename them.When you put on your HA, it automatically goes into AUTOMATIC mode, but mine goes into custom MUSIC mode, the program my audiologist created for me, I like it that way.
Why 4 programs you ask?They all sound different and you can switch them within app, on your phone.For example, if you are in the restaurant and you switch to RESTAURANT mode, it cuts all the noise around you, but not the voices of the people around your table, it's that good.My family is mostly european (Polish), Easter Sunday we sitting in the very nice restaurant and there is another european family, talking very loudly, making everybody in the restaurant uncomfortable, but me.So I'm laughing and my ex-wife and kids go, what's so funny?I go, I can't really hear the screamers, but I can perfectly hear all of you around me.To be honest, my nation can be as noisy too, so it's all good, lol.

3.BLUETOOTH; works well with phone conversation, but the range is very poor, if you compare it to Airpods Pro (for example).The same, when it comes to listenning to the music from your phone.It has AMBIENT BALANCE mode, which is simular to NOISE CANCELLATION mode, but not even close, when it comes to quality.Basically, indoor listenning to the music is ok, but outdoor terrible, for walks I use my beloved Airpads Pro 2.

4.DOMES or EARPIECES (same thing, different name); I came across 3 kinds (OPEN DOMES, VENTED DOMES, POWER DOMES).You have to experiment with those too, size wise.I use the POWER DOMES, because I find them the BEST!!!!!

5.MAINTENANCE; very important to clean them, keep them out of wet, always check your ears, before shower.Every so often, you have to replace FILTERS or EARWAX PROTECTION (again, different name, the same thing), You'll hear the difference, with new filters, guaranteed.

6.OVERALL; For 28 years, I was exposed to 3 mills, 10 autoclaves, 4 presses and 4-6 towmotors, Dante's Infero was like vacation resort, compare to my fucking job.My spine (4 disks) and hearing got damaged, I have to take painkillers.So, is my life better with HA, hell yes!!!
I can enjoy my music, TV or conversation.But there are days, when I don't wear them, I want to be free of them and my audiologist says, that's normal and there is nothing wrong with that.

Thank you Mariusz!  I did get a BTE Sparkey Edge AI-20.  The program is set to about 80% of prescription until tomorrow when it goes full tilt.  We'll see how it goes but my audiologist said she'd make any custom program I prefer my default.  The first day or so at 80% was a bit overwhelming but I quickly adapted to where the world sounds wrong without them.  Who knew there were so many upper harmonics to peeing in a toilet!

This model includes a 3 band EQ like yours. The Starkey doesn't label programs, its thing is evaluating environments and offering 3 options in response: noise reduction, voices, and best sound (whatever that is).  I have a lot more playing around to do after acclimating to 100% prescription and so far I'm satisfied with my audiologist.

Blue tooth is sketchy like you describe.  I'm typically listening to pod casts and such so BT music quality isn't important at this point.  Honestly the feature I've come to appreciate the most is BT phone calls.  That itself is a game changer from me.  Of course if I wanted BT phone I could have bought Airpods an Apple watch and an iPhone 16 for far less than half what these HA cost.

Far as I can tell Starkey only has open and closed domes.  I have the open but told the audiologist I'd want closed for the motorcycle if the HA can replace ear plugs.  That is step 5. I'm still on 1.5.

In general life is better!

Mariusz Uszynski

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« Reply #15 on: 4 May 2025, 09:08 pm »
Thank you Mariusz!  I did get a BTE Sparkey Edge AI-20.  The program is set to about 80% of prescription until tomorrow when it goes full tilt.  We'll see how it goes but my audiologist said she'd make any custom program I prefer my default.  The first day or so at 80% was a bit overwhelming but I quickly adapted to where the world sounds wrong without them.  Who knew there were so many upper harmonics to peeing in a toilet!

This model includes a 3 band EQ like yours. The Starkey doesn't label programs, its thing is evaluating environments and offering 3 options in response: noise reduction, voices, and best sound (whatever that is).  I have a lot more playing around to do after acclimating to 100% prescription and so far I'm satisfied with my audiologist.

Blue tooth is sketchy like you describe.  I'm typically listening to pod casts and such so BT music quality isn't important at this point.  Honestly the feature I've come to appreciate the most is BT phone calls.  That itself is a game changer from me.  Of course if I wanted BT phone I could have bought Airpods an Apple watch and an iPhone 16 for far less than half what these HA cost.

Far as I can tell Starkey only has open and closed domes.  I have the open but told the audiologist I'd want closed for the motorcycle if the HA can replace ear plugs.  That is step 5. I'm still on 1.5.

In general life is better!


I had a good laugh about "upper harmonics to peeing in a toilet", lol.Last summer, I came home, after annaul checkup and adjustment, got out of the car and from the huge oak tree, I have heard the birds chirping.That put big smile on my face.
Allan, with POWER/CLOSE DOMES, you will get the best quality, IMHO.I remebered, it took me a while, before I finally got used to them.I used to switch from OPEN, then to VENTED, then back to POWER and they are the best for me.When it comes to size, SMALL DOMES fit my ears the best.I wish and hope, that you will get better sound out of your hearing aid overtime.I call mine "TRAMBONES", lol.

The difference between VENTED and POWER DOMES, is that the VENTED have 2 extra small holes, the size of the needle, for the air to circulate.

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Re: Audio (Hearing Aid)
« Reply #16 on: 4 May 2025, 11:02 pm »
I will do a follow up visit in a couple of weeks and I have to ask her what type of dome I have. She told me that if I wanted to try a different type of dome that I should go to her office and refit a different pair. I might seek a different Doctor which would cost some bucks. I only found one Doctor here that works with all the major brands. I wanted Oticon and she is the only one that I found so far. Her Yelp rating has some dents in it and I can see what her customers find negative. I might just grin and bear it because I am really liking this product.

Mariusz Uszynski

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« Reply #17 on: 4 May 2025, 11:14 pm »
I will do a follow up visit in a couple of weeks and I have to ask her what type of dome I have. She told me that if I wanted to try a different type of dome that I should go to her office and refit a different pair. I might seek a different Doctor which would cost some bucks. I only found one Doctor here that works with all the major brands. I wanted Oticon and she is the only one that I found so far. Her Yelp rating has some dents in it and I can see what her customers find negative. I might just grin and bear it because I am really liking this product.

 Hi Craig, you can purchase domes online, for your brand.This way, you don't have to pay for costly visits, every time you see the doctor or audiologist.Please, let us know, how the dome fitting went?

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« Reply #18 on: 5 May 2025, 04:08 pm »
I tried Oticon and hated the results. I thought it was awful. :( I have been using Widex Moment for 4 years. My audiologist (Kaiser Permanente) carries both brands and some others. Widex is the one recommended for music. I was the first or one of the first to get the brand there. Kaiser brought in a trial pair at my request and assistance from the Widex area sales representative who was already in preliminary discussions.

If you are shopping in that price range give Widex a try. If I remember correctly, Widex and Oticon are in the same price range. If not, Widex is still worth the cost if music is important to you.