[underdawg2024]

when is someone going design speakers amps preamps for metal music band like Pantera, iced earth, also opera metal like Nightwish and other types of metal?
I have heard 100s speakers they do most music but suck really bad with metal?
Ene went I went to many shows including audio fest in Denver they frowned on metal lot of rooms would let us play it even.
I 57 i like metal only. I dare anyone to even try and make something to play it.
I have a separate Prosound system for it, it great with metal but sucks on everything else. I do listen to faith hill Shania twain heart Wilson sisters so not only metal. I like some female vocals.

Chime in metal heads tell me your experiences.

[underdawg2024]

I did go VMPS had a have several sets those speakers with adcom amps do ok but not high end. I want high metal.

[Mariusz Uszynski]

I have Dynaudio Excite X44/Bryston combo and loving it for metal.

[corndog71]

You might want to consider the Bully kit.

[Early B.]

I want high metal.

It's just a reality for most audiophiles that some of our favorite music no longer sounds good as our systems get better. I'm no metal aficionado, but I'd imagine that most metal isn't likely to be recorded with the same rigor as orchestral or jazz music. In fact, good speakers will be more resolving which will probably make metal sound worse.     

[SoCalWJS]

Budget?

As has been stated, often the recording quality of most Metal is not aimed at “Audiophile” listeners. You might actually fare better with “Professional” equipment - big JBL’s and the like.

I’d go for the Bullies, or,  NX-tremes with triples.

[Scott F.]

Problem solved! Get the Shiit Loki Max. It even comes with a remote so you can adjust levels from the comfort of your chair.

https://www.schiit.com/products/loki-max

I've got one and it works great. Want to rock out? Trim the treble a bit, crank the bass and life is much better. Want to listen to jazz, classical, audiophile stuff, click the bypass button (on the remote) and its like it's not there.

...at this point, I'm going to hide from the purists as I'm about to get nuked.
      
I don't care though. At least I can listen to ALL of my music, not just the crap that sounds good on my system....that comment might get me banned 

[FireGuy]

In a small to medium room:  (me) Axiom M2v3, M22v3 and Omega Super 5s.  With Yamaha pre, Musical Paradise SET and AudioSource AMP110.  Never had an issue with any music genres not living up sonically to the gear mentioned.

My repertoire is 99% metal and all its subgenres.  I don't go ear-bleeding loud and my positioning to the speakers is mid field.  The experience overall with metal is just fine.  I don't need a mega system to handle the high decibel levels that traditionally metal gives you.

An aside:  If your speakers are worthy, it will handle ALL types music.   Including metal.

[mkrawcz]

Even Metal sounds good through any GR-Research speaker. Especially, the Brute. When I'm not listening to classical, Jazz and Blues, I'm heavy into Dream Theater and Nightwish. They don't tend to be the best mixed recordings, but even poor recordings tend to sound good through Danny's speakers because they're designed right.

[underdawg2024]

I've seen metal bands record in a studio awhile I did some work for the guy on a tube recording studio. yes, all tube. a lot was Behringer stuff. my VMPS speakers model now on RM 2s do ok, but i think there might be something better. I go back to GR in July to pick my speaker up and recommendation and parts, ill try the brute and report here what I thought.
Thanks for your inputs keep them coming.
Thanks

[NIGHTFALL1970]

I have all AVA gear and Magnepan 1.7s and metal sounds fine for the most part.

[VinceT]

A lof of metal has crap tone IMHO

Hard to sound good on a high performing system

With all the distortion with the guitars and vocal styles, instruments compete and fight to get heard in the mix. Musicians adjust their tone to compensate versus optimizing the sound of the instruments. You need a dynamic and fast solid state system to get the most out of metal. That is what I would do. GR can get you there with the right amplification. Pro gear sounds bad for music reproduction compared to a audiophile system. If it sound better on pro gear, probably not mixed well to.begin with.

[underdawg2024]

Vince, you make valid points, however I modified a lot Prosound, guitar drums bass played since 1984 and that evolved into being audiophile myself.
I can tell you playing the instruments myself on cheap Prosound versus good quality there is a difference Imho, and the real musicians I played with, not me by no means, agreed and we tweaked away on their equipment together, the guys I knew were backing musicians mainly in studios, but a few played live few times nothing super famous but known bands.

[underdawg2024]

wow nightfall I've listened to Maggie's few times, never metal, but never gave thought to they could. good to know. I guess the speed and accuracy of electrostatics would very good but I never liked Maggie bass thin to me wouldn't thought to try but I will I have access to some Marin Logans and few other statics.
Thanks for the idea.

[underdawg2024]

thanks for the 99 percent metal fire guy not many audiophiles in metal nice to see some.

[jmimac351]

Playing Metallica Enter Sandman on the Brute or Bully in Danny's room, cranked up, would end this conversation, I bet.

I suspect you want some horsepower for that task... and there's no replacement for displacement.

You also need a "Loudness" button to get the proper "tone" we grew up with.

If we could figure how to get Analog Out from a clock radio to feed an external amp, it would have the perfect metal sound. 

[corndog71]

A pair of X-MTMs would get the job done too.

[Tyson]

When I was at Danny's, I listened to a lot of speakers using Tool and AC-DC and they all did very well.  With music like that, you want designs that are tactile and make you feel the music in your body.  GR Research is great at that.  The Bully's weren't in existence back then, but looking at the design itself, it would be the one I would choose if I was mostly metal and hard rock.

[underdawg2024]

lmao jim

[underdawg2024]

next visit ill try the bullies while im there in july