BP-19 announcement

Vhond · « **on:** 22 Aug 2023, 12:37 pm »

The successor of the BP 26??

https://audioxpress.com/news/bryston-introduces-the-bp-19-preamplifier

James Tanner · « **Reply #1 on:** 22 Aug 2023, 01:42 pm »

Hi Vhond

We will see - the BP26 design is decades old and still holds its own against current preamps.
I think we will let the market decide which one wins out.

james

Vhond · « **Reply #2 on:** 23 Aug 2023, 02:41 pm »

We shall see, BP-19 has the power supply inside (for those who don't want two separate boxes

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MetalAudio · « **Reply #3 on:** 24 Aug 2023, 05:18 pm »

How does the sound quality compare to the BR-20? Would it make sense to upgrade?

jcn3 · « **Reply #4 on:** 24 Aug 2023, 08:37 pm »

Quote from: MetalAudio on 24 Aug 2023, 05:18 pm

How does the sound quality compare to the BR-20? Would it make sense to upgrade?

it's a bit apples and oranges -- they have two different design intents. the br-19 is a pure analog pre-amp (i.e. you bring your streamer and dac). the br-20 is a streamer/dac/preamp in a single chassis.

MetalAudio · « **Reply #5 on:** 25 Aug 2023, 01:32 am »

I know, but I already own the BR-20 and thinking of switching to an external dac and streamer.

dubkarma · « **Reply #6 on:** 26 Aug 2023, 04:22 pm »

I am keen to learn some specs of the BP-19 that don't seem to be listed in any of the Bryston promotional literature, in particular:

— maximum permissible voltage for the balanced inputs—my DACs have voltage outputs that range from 4.0 to 12.25 Vrms

— maximum voltage output capability for the balanced outputs—the manufacturer of my active speakers, Meyer Sound Labs, specifies an analogue preamp with at least 11 Vrms output capability

— gain in dB—experience has shown me I prefer 10-16 dB gain in an active preamp

— output impedance—my power amps have fairly low input impedances, ranging from 3.3 to 10 kOhms.

Alfalfa · « **Reply #7 on:** 26 Aug 2023, 04:47 pm »

Quote from: dubkarma on 26 Aug 2023, 04:22 pm

I am keen to learn some specs of the BP-19 that don't seem to be listed in any of the Bryston promotional literature, in particular:

— maximum permissible voltage for the balanced inputs—my DACs have voltage outputs that range from 4.0 to 12.25 Vrms

— maximum voltage output capability for the balanced outputs—the manufacturer of my active speakers, Meyer Sound Labs, specifies an analogue preamp with at least 11 Vrms output capability

— gain in dB—experience has shown me I prefer 10-16 dB gain in an active preamp

— output impedance—my power amps have fairly low input impedances, ranging from 3.3 to 10 kOhms.

I suspect that these values are the same as those from the BR-20 as the BR-19 is a BR-20 without digital circuits (streamer and possibly dac). This configuration is said to have slightly lower noise levels because of it.

zeeman · « **Reply #8 on:** 26 Aug 2023, 06:29 pm »

Will the BP-19 have the same headphone stage as the BR-20? I hope so, as it's excellent.

James Tanner · « **Reply #9 on:** 26 Aug 2023, 06:59 pm »

Hi Zeeman - yes it will

james

MetalAudio · « **Reply #10 on:** 29 Aug 2023, 03:26 pm »

Hi James,

Do you think it's worth to switch over to this preamp if I already own the BR-20 or would you just keep it if you were me?

Thanks

James Tanner · « **Reply #11 on:** 29 Aug 2023, 03:34 pm »

Quote from: MetalAudio on 29 Aug 2023, 03:26 pm

Hi James,

Do you think it's worth to switch over to this preamp if I already own the BR-20 or would you just keep it if you were me?

Thanks

No need unless you ae unhappy with the DAC or Streamer in the BR-20.

james

Sco77 · « **Reply #12 on:** 30 Aug 2023, 03:51 pm »

Intriguing!

When might these actually be shipped? How much to add a phono stage?

I have a BP-20 w/phono and was considering sending it back to Bryston for a refresh. However, the BP-19 looks like it would be an upgrade over my BP-20 on all fronts. Plus, it would go great with the 4BSST3 I got a year or so ago [upgraded from a 4BSST via Bryston's upgrade program]. And if you're considering an upgrade program for the BP-19, count me in!

James Tanner · « **Reply #13 on:** 30 Aug 2023, 03:55 pm »

Hi Sco77

I am frustrated -

We are waiting for one last proprietary part for the BP-19 then we can get started on production.
The Phono can be MM or MC
MM - $1000 US List
MC- $1,750 US List (includes the MM stage)

best
james

dubkarma · « **Reply #14 on:** 30 Aug 2023, 04:20 pm »

I'm somewhat confused.

What's the difference between the BP-17 Cubed and the new BP-19?

Both are analogue line-stage preamps, both have similar I/O.

The former seems to have lower input impedances than the latter, but that's the only obvious difference I noted thus far. . .

James Tanner · « **Reply #15 on:** 30 Aug 2023, 04:49 pm »

Hi

The BP-19 is a different design. Based on the BR-20.
It is the analog section of the BR-20.
It is a fully balance design from input to output.
It can also have MM or MC Phono.

best
james

GrooveControl · « **Reply #16 on:** 31 Aug 2023, 02:53 am »

Looks like you gave up the tape/processor loop. Shame for anyone wanting to use an EQ or room correction processor. I guess you can run those between pre and power amps, but the loop is preferable for easy in/out switching.

MN2CHFAN · « **Reply #17 on:** 31 Aug 2023, 01:31 pm »

Is the BHA-1 still superior for headphone fans over the upcoming 19 model?

MetalAudio · « **Reply #18 on:** 10 Sep 2023, 03:52 pm »

Quote from: James Tanner on 29 Aug 2023, 03:34 pm

No need unless you ae unhappy with the DAC or Streamer in the BR-20.

james

Thank you - I will stick with my BR-20 then.

Stefan_DR3 · « **Reply #19 on:** 10 Sep 2023, 07:17 pm »

Quote from: James Tanner on 30 Aug 2023, 04:49 pm

It can also have MM or MC Phono.

What kind of step-up transformers are used on the MC input? Are they comparable to the Jensen parts used in the BP2 and TF2?

Do they mount to the phono daughterboard or elsewhere in the BP-19 chassis?

Pic for reference: