Which table to consider?

LordCloud · « **on:** 21 Apr 2005, 07:52 pm »

Teres or Eurolab? I had my heart set on a Eurolab, but I'm thinking that maybe I'll get a Teres and upgrade when I can. What do you guys think?

darkmoebius · « **Reply #1 on:** 23 Apr 2005, 08:32 pm »

I just bought a used Scheu/Eurolab TT a few days ago and the previous owner was upgrading to a Teres 300 series.

Unfortunately, I cannot compare and contrast them for you because he hadn't yet received his new table and I am still searching for a proper tonearm. He did have an "earlier" Teres acrylic platter and the Scheu was of much higher quality. The Teres had air and adhesive pockets or cloudy discolorations. The CNC machining was also nowhere near the Scheu's level. Though, in all honesty, I can't tell you how "early" of a platter it was.

Also, I have traded emails with a few people who feel that the Teres power supply and strobe system is far superior to that of the Scheu which is a simple Walwart.

shokunin · « **Reply #2 on:** 23 Apr 2005, 10:37 pm »

Quote from: darkmoebius

I just bought a used Scheu/Eurolab TT a few days ago and the previous owner was upgrading to a Teres 300 series.

Hey Darkmobebius,

That would be me...

Nice meeting you the other day!! I had the Eurolab (Scheu) and an early (first or second production run) Teres Acrylic, the one that was press laminated from 3 1" acrylic pieces, the machining on the Scheu was better, but production processes from Teres are much better today than the early prototypes.

They are both designed around similar principles and both are excellent tables, I doubt you could go wrong with either. Each material sounds different acylic, leaded acrylic, wood, brass & wood, so Teres will offer you a number of choices and prices. The Eurolab has some options, platter thickness, number of arms, but is essential limited in it's upgrade path. I would have loved to see how the Teres Reference motor would perform on the Eurolab, but I believe Chris is still backloged on some parts.

There are not a lot of used Eurolabs or Teres, and that's probably because both represent outstanding value and quality that an upgrade would cost quite a bit of $$$ for a small incremental gain.

darkmoebius · « **Reply #3 on:** 24 Apr 2005, 05:07 am »

Hi Glenn,

I've got the table sitting in my dining room awaiting the final piece. I've found a used Scheu Tacco that I may pick up if I can wiggle the price into my budget range.

I'm also thinking about getting a ZYX R-100 Fuji FS or Airy cart to compare with my Grado Statement.

Thanks again for the table and advice.

Vic

LordCloud · « **Reply #4 on:** 25 Apr 2005, 01:21 am »

I'm also considering a BIX, anyone thoughts?

darkmoebius · « **Reply #5 on:** 25 Apr 2005, 05:45 am »

Hi Loudcloud,

I'm a vinyl newbie also, so my insight is limited enough to be totally worthless.

The Bix was also at the top of my list(looks are stunning) also, but it is hard to get a clear read on it's performance relative to other commercial offerings. I have yet to read many posts/reviews comparing it to anything else.

In the end, I decided to spend 2x as much to get a mature, proven, product with a solid track record of performance and durability. A benefit of that is that it should also have a more stable resale value if I ever need to upgrade.

Although, as Shokunin show can attest, the next step up is BIG and expensive. Not likely to be happening for me for a very long time, new speakers will come long before that.