[tortoiseman2542]

They're intended to be a somewhere between the two, but much cheaper than the platinums or Miflex.

What platinum value should be used for the X-LS?  I don’t see the miflex equivalent but it could be my mistake.

Robert

[WGH]

0.1uF Gen 3 Sonicaps.
We have a been using tiny 0.01uF Gen 3 Sonicaps in place of the 0.1 Gen 2 caps for months now, but they're too small to really do any A/B comparisons.

If you want to try something larger then the Russian FT3 0.01uF Teflon caps are real nice.
"This cap is exceedingly smooth, smooth, yet resolved like only Teflon caps are. This evenness and lack of glare, grain, or bite can be disadvantageous for FT3, especially in quick cap-rolling A-B comparisons, where a cap with a more insistent personality will attract more attention and spotlight. However, after living with this cap for a long time, one has to marvel at its consistently musically-revealing nature and tonality. It doesn't wear its detail resolution on its sleeve, yet when one chooses to listen for it, the extension in both directions are impressive as well as actual detail. Its trick is having equal resolution from top-to-bottom, so the whole is well, wholesome. It conveys music in a flowing, suave tonality and is the crooner of the cap crowd."
http://www.enjoythemusic.com/diy/0708/capacitor3.htm

I used 6 - 0.01uf FT-3 caps bypassing Sonicap and Mundorf SIO caps in my Hagerman Cornet2 phono preamp and couldn't be happier.



 

[tortoiseman2542]

I’m checking out the V-Cap Odams and notice they don’t have one of the specific values needed but one slightly higher. I won’t give the number out of respect for Danny, but will give an example of what I am talking about with a different number. For instance… let’s say the XO needs 7uF cap but V-cap odam only has 7.2uF.

Would that be ok or will using the slightly higher number wreck everything?

Also what bypass caps would you all use with the Odams?

Robert

[Hobbsmeerkat]

I’m checking out the V-Cap Odams and notice they don’t have one of the specific values needed but one slightly higher. I won’t give the number out of respect for Danny, but will give an example of what I am talking about with a different number. For instance… let’s say the XO needs 7uF cap but V-cap odam only has 7.2uF.

Would that be ok or will using the slightly higher number wreck everything?

Also what bypass caps would you all use with the Odams?

Robert

Most caps have a +/-10% variance, so it wont hurt to get the "closest available" values to fit them. So long as all caps are a matched pair you're in good shape

[tortoiseman2542]

Thanks Hobbs!

Anyone have any thoughts about running sonicaps like normal but bypassing with v-cap odams? 

Robert

[corndog71]

Thanks Hobbs!

Anyone have any thoughts about running sonicaps like normal but bypassing with v-cap odams? 

Robert

I considered trying that.  Would be interesting to get someone’s take on that combo.

[mkrawcz]

Thanks Hobbs!

Anyone have any thoughts about running sonicaps like normal but bypassing with v-cap odams? 

Robert

Never tried it, but it would be interesting. Whatever the characteristics are of the bypass cap are what tend to dominate with the combo. The vcaps provide an unbelievable 3D soundstage so I would suspect that to show as the immediate improvement.

[Rikard Ekval]

Depends. There are 2 versions of the X-LS crossover. (Excluding the base-level kit)
The older version has a single primary cap with 2 bypass caps.
The newer version has 2 primary caps with 2 bypass caps.

Hobbs! From when did you use the newer version? 2021-2020-2019-2018?
I bought in November 2020, with all options, so do I have it, without dismantling the woofer?

[Hobbsmeerkat]

Not exactly sure when the change was made., danny would have to answer that.
My X-LS kit from summer 2020 was the newer, current version.

Since your order is from late 2020 it's most likely the newer version.

We had issues getting Sonicaps over this summer, so there was a brief period where we switched back to the older crossover for the kits with Sonicap upgrades.

We're stocked up on them for now, aside from some of the larger values. Namely 25uF, but those should be coming soon.

[Creed]

I had some Clarity cap CMR’s in another speaker with external crossover so I stole them to go in XLS Sking ninja temporarily just to see what happens. I was short 2 UF so I used a 2 UF Solen out of junk drawer and ran parallel to claritycap. I spent a couple days listening to xls with sonicaps and then switched to Clarity caps. Ran it a couple days and then listened. The Sonicap xls sounds very nice but there is a significant difference with the switch. With clarity caps it was much more refined, transparent just a cleaner presentation while being very smooth. Bass is improved but not as large as highs.

[tortoiseman2542]

I had some Clarity cap CMR’s in another speaker with external crossover so I stole them to go in XLS Sking ninja temporarily just to see what happens. I was short 2 UF so I used a 2 UF Solen out of junk drawer and ran parallel to claritycap. I spent a couple days listening to xls with sonicaps and then switched to Clarity caps. Ran it a couple days and then listened. The Sonicap xls sounds very nice but there is a significant difference with the switch. With clarity caps it was much more refined, transparent just a cleaner presentation while being very smooth. Bass is improved but not as large as highs.

What skiing Ninja XO do you have?  Does it have sonicap platinum bypass caps?

Robert

[Creed]

It had the foil inductors, mills resistors, with miflex bypass caps on Sonicaps, no platinum bypass caps. When I used the Clarity caps in the xls I forgot to put the Miflex in as bypass. After spending a little time with Clarity CMR in XLS and things settle in it is not a subtle change there is a substantial difference but more money for the clarity caps.

[tortoiseman2542]

So if one were to go full V-cap Odams for the caps, what, if any, bypass caps?

Robert

[Badd99]

So if one were to go full V-cap Odams for the caps, what, if any, bypass caps?

Robert

Would be expensive but likely worth it... I have all my parts but haven't built my nx otica yet.

I did all vcap odam for. Main tweeter cap then bypass with dueland jdm silver 0.01 bypass cap. I also did all foil inductors on the entire crossover and all path audio resistors. If your gonna go big, might as well go all the way!

For the parallel cap on the tweeter I got rid of the erse cap and did a clarity cap and bypass with 0.1 myflex because I had it already.

For the larger values needed for the mids the cost for all vcap odam bundle is $$$$$ so I did the sonicaps and bypass with the 0.1 vcap odam instead of the myflex cap. The mid parallel sonicap on the mids I bypass with the 0.1 myflex because I had it.

Vcap plans some bigger caps they said hopefully in early to mid 2022 so eventually I'd like to do all vcap on the mid circuit but when they get some bigger values than they have now it will make cost much better (although still about 1k for a single cap value on both speakers)