Another DIY Absorption Panel Project

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PeteG

Another DIY Absorption Panel Project
« on: 20 Mar 2005, 10:38 pm »
Well this all started with me needing some DIY absorption panels for my front wall,
so I started with Owens Corning 703 1 1/2" rigid fiberglass and poly-fil as the base of the panel, I built this a little different than what I've seen on other audio websites.

First the fame, I routered  the front of the frame with a round-over bit so no sharp edges
for the burlap, and the back, I rabbet the edge so the backing board will be flush.

   


I used wood glue and a staple gun to put the frame together, in my opinion a hand or air staple gun makes this so much easier. 







I cut out triangles from the backing board, if I used the whole 2"x 4" sheet it would have been to heavy to me. I glue and stapled them in and it worked fine to hold the fiberglass in place in the back.






So I put a 1/2" layer of poly-fil down than the 1 1/2"? of 703 and 3/4" of poly-fil on top (the face). I had some white spray paint so I sprayed the frame so the wood would not show thru the burlap.








I than used spray adhesive and staples for the white burlap cover and a wire across the back of it to hang it up.




Everything turned out good, a little more time and work than I thought it would.
The only problem now, is I only made one, so I could see how it would turn out.
So I have 4 more to go, this will take some time.
The DIY panel is 3 1/2"W x 5 1/2"T x 2 1/2"?D and cost was around $27.



UPDATE:

I finally finished the rest of my absorption panels, two on the side walls and three on the front wall. I already had four bass traps and EighthNerve controllers.

The differences in before and after are huge, taming the reflections in my room helped in several ways, first the mids are cleaner, I had a little blurring in the mids, which I didn’t know was that bad till I put up the panels and I also heard more depth and detail in the mids the funny thing is the extra detail was always there just covered up by to many reflections.

When I turn up the volume now it doesn’t get to busy sounding, the panels eliminated image confusion on loud passages.

And one of the biggest benefits I got is the back of my listening room opens up, to two
more rooms and I had severe echoes from these rooms but now the echoes are just about gone.

The treble was affected the least, I believe do to EighthNerve's controllers already being there.

The panels did take a very little air out and some ambience in back of me, at first I thought
the room was a little to damped but the more I listened, the more I believe now it just closer to the Recording.

I didn't do any before & after measurements of the room (don't have the means right now) but I would Highly Recommend getting some kind of acoustical room treatment
If you can. 




Pete
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JLM

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« Reply #1 on: 21 Mar 2005, 12:11 am »
Nice work Pete, what acoustical differences have you noticed?

ooheadsoo

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« Reply #2 on: 21 Mar 2005, 12:17 am »
Great looking traps.  When I made mine, I didn't make a frame to go around the actual panel because I didn't want to block sounds coming in from an angle, but I'm sure it's not a huge limiting factor.  It sure looks great.

I would recommend spacing the panel from the wall for better absorption.

PeteG

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« Reply #3 on: 21 Mar 2005, 12:29 am »
Thanks guys.

Quote from: JLM
Nice work Pete, what acoustical differences have you noticed?


I'll wait till I have one or two more panels to hear the full benefits,
but just one panel helped my midrange, little clearer.

My bass traps I have now made a huge difference for the low end.

Pete

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« Reply #4 on: 21 Mar 2005, 04:56 pm »
Pete,

Great job! They look really nice, and I have only one suggestion:

> I have 4 more to go, this will take some time. <

Since you're planning to make four more, I suggest you make them four inches thick instead of only two. That will work much better for bass traps. The panels you already made are fine for general mid/high ambience control and for treating the first reflection points.

--Ethan

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« Reply #5 on: 21 Mar 2005, 10:12 pm »
The pics don't work for me- I just get gibberish text. :?

ooheadsoo

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« Reply #6 on: 21 Mar 2005, 10:19 pm »
Quote from: Rob Babcock
The pics don't work for me- I just get gibberish text. :?


They work in IE.  Don't work for me in firefox either.  This isn't the first time I've seen this problem with firefox :\

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« Reply #7 on: 21 Mar 2005, 11:15 pm »
Your panel project looks great, Pete, and thanks for the details on the building!
Am looking forward to your 'review' of the difference in sound, once you have them all built and have listened a little bit.
I was inordinately surprised with my 8thNerve products I added, but am still not convinced that they are the way I want to go in my next project.
Good work!

Regards,
DeadFish

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« Reply #8 on: 21 Mar 2005, 11:42 pm »
Very nice looking!  BTW, that's the first time I've had to use IE in about 6 months. :lol:

JoshK

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« Reply #9 on: 22 Mar 2005, 12:10 am »
I was going to do something very similar but my wife poo-pooed the idea.  Now I am thinking of making free standing panels that can be taken out while listening and put in the closet when not.  Shouldn't be too much harder.

PeteG

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« Reply #10 on: 22 Mar 2005, 03:11 am »
Quote from: Ethan Winer


Since you're planning to make four more, I suggest you make them four inches thick instead of only two. That will work much better for bass traps. The panels you already made are fine for general mid/high ambience control and for treating the first reflection points.

--Ethan



Ethan
 The panels I’m making now are for first reflections, my plan right now is two for the side walls and three for my front wall.  If you check out the pic in my System Link, I have four bass trap’s already, and they do a great job.

Pete

PeteG

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« Reply #11 on: 9 Apr 2005, 11:09 pm »
UPDATE:

I finally finished the rest of my absorption panels, two on the side walls and three on the front wall. I already had four bass traps and EighthNerve controllers.

The differences in before and after are huge, taming the reflections in my room helped in several ways, first the mids are cleaner, I had a little blurring in the mids, which I didn’t know was that bad till I put up the panels and I also heard more depth and detail in the mids the funny thing is the extra detail was always there just covered up by to many reflections.

When I turn up the volume now it doesn’t get to busy sounding, the panels eliminated image confusion on loud passages.

And one of the biggest benefits I got is the back of my listening room opens up, to two
more rooms and I had severe echoes from these rooms but now the echoes are just about gone.

The treble was affected the least, I believe do to EighthNerve’s controllers already being there.

The panels did take a very little air out and some ambience in back of me, at first I thought
the room was a little to damped but the more I listened, the more I believe now it just closer to the Recording.

I didn’t do any before & after measurements of the room (don’t have the means right now) but I would Highly Recommend getting some kind of acoustical room treatment
If you can.  

Pete


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« Reply #12 on: 9 Apr 2005, 11:20 pm »
Nice work.... what fabric did you use to cover them?

Ohh.... I read back a little and see it was Burlap.  

Looks great and I expect it makes a huge difference.   I'm making a bunch for my new room project over the next couple months.   I was going to spurge and use the Guilford of Maine FR701 because it comes in so many fabric choices.   I'm also building some 4" thick for ceiling & ceiling wall corners all around the room.

PeteG

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« Reply #13 on: 10 Apr 2005, 01:35 am »
Kevin
 I picked up the burlap locally and I didn’t have much of a selection.
If I would have waited a little longer I could have ordered some nice fabric and got closer to the color I wanted, the burlap is limited on colors and is very dusty.

Pete

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« Reply #14 on: 10 Apr 2005, 01:58 am »
While it appears that a lot of speaker grille cloth is pretty expensive (although there are some nice looking options), it looks like there are some cheap burlap options.  A 25yd (36" wide) bolt of Bengal Burlap from Jo Ann's fabric online is $80, but there are always 40% off one item codes available.  $48 for 25yds is pretty good and there are eight colors.  (Three yards for each 2x4 panel means eight panels out of one bolt.)

Their regular burlap is a bit cheaper ($3/yd for 48" wide) and comes in six colors, but it specifically notes that it is tightly woven which is probably less ideal.  

It looks like the basic grille cloth from Parts Express is $7/yd (70" wide) which isn't that bad.  (4 colors)

PeteG

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« Reply #15 on: 10 Apr 2005, 02:15 am »
My local Jo Ann's had six colors and I gave around $4.96 for one panel (3yards). I don't want no one to think the burlap looks bad, because if done right they look very good.

Pete

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« Reply #16 on: 10 Apr 2005, 02:29 am »
This is a byproduct of the php script the John wrote to keep people from linking to our gallery photos ouside of AC. If the photos are inserted into the post then it works OK but links from the posts to gallery pics don't work right in Firefox. I have a idea why, I'll contact John and see if anything can be done. I agree, sucks to have to fire up IE.

Sorry about  the thread hijack Pete. The panels look like they turned out great. I'd love to do something like that in my room but I'm pretty sure my wife would do backflips if acoustic panels suddenly appeared on the walls.



Quote from: ooheadsoo
Quote from: Rob Babcock
The pics don't work for me- I just get gibberish text. :?


They work in IE.  Don't work for me in firefox either.  This isn't the first time I've seen this problem with firefox :\

BradJudy

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« Reply #17 on: 10 Apr 2005, 03:48 am »
Quote from: mgalusha

I'd love to do something like that in my room but I'm pretty sure my wife would do backflips if acoustic panels suddenly appeared on the walls.


That sounds like a reason to DO it.  :)

mgalusha

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« Reply #18 on: 10 Apr 2005, 01:59 pm »
She's 53, I don't want to see her in the hospital. :o Now, if she were 23...

Quote from: BradJudy
Quote from: mgalusha

I'd love to do something like that in my room but I'm pretty sure my wife would do backflips if acoustic panels suddenly appeared on the walls.


That sounds like a reason to DO it.  :)

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« Reply #19 on: 10 Apr 2005, 03:31 pm »
which would be the best for the burlap, the loose knit or tight knit or would it matter?