Bought my first Omegas-Super 8 XRS

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Dako

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Bought my first Omegas-Super 8 XRS
« on: 4 Jan 2021, 08:25 pm »
All,
  I am giddy like a little kid on Christmas. I spoke to Louis today and ordered a pair Super 8 XRS speakers in a surprise finish. I asked Louis what would work best for my room and listening habits and said I should be fine with the Super 8 XRS speakers. He is going to put a port in the bottom to enhance the bass a little. I also picked out 2 finishes and told him to surprise me. So I won't know what finish they are until my new babies arrive.

My room is 11ish by 11ish, the dreaded square but I have lots of absorption and some diffusion and have tamed my Legacy Signature SE's pretty well through experimentation. I know I will not have the punch the Legacy's had, but am being optimistic with the Supers and hoping I don't need to go the sub route. Louis did say that the bass will get better as they break in. I am confident the detail will be exquisite. My listening habits range from classic rock to newer blues to female vocals.

Looking for some feedback from anyone who has these same speakers and maybe a similar room situation for any pointers/tips. They will be driven by a Decware ZMA.

Thanks
Dave

opnly bafld

Re: Bought my first Omegas-Super 8 XRS
« Reply #1 on: 4 Jan 2021, 10:55 pm »
I would think driver integration is a problem with the Focus in a room that small, no problem with the Omegas.
« Last Edit: 6 Jan 2021, 10:04 pm by opnly bafld »

SET Man

Re: Bought my first Omegas-Super 8 XRS
« Reply #2 on: 12 Jan 2021, 12:17 am »
I would think driver integration is a problem with the Focus in a room that small, no problem with the Omegas.

Hey!

    Yeah, that's what I thought too.The Legacy is lot of speaker for a 11X11 room. And having a squarish room is not good to start with also. But the simpler Omega will likely work better in your room if you set them up correctly. You'll likely hear hear detail and more precise imaging. Do experiment with toe-in since single driver speaker, especially larger driver can be very beamy. And if you feel that you need more of the very high top just add super tweeters. If you listen to a lot of female vocals like me, you'll love it on a proper Single Driver speaker.

    Anyway, my room is about 10'X17' and I'm using Single Driver Speaker with Fostex 6" and Fostex super tweeter drivers driving with 18wpc SET amps this works for me.

Buddy

zmaggio

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Re: Bought my first Omegas-Super 8 XRS
« Reply #3 on: 12 Jan 2021, 04:33 am »
Congratulations on your new Omegas, Dave.  I think you'll find them an eye (ear?) opening experience.  I have a room very similar to you, and was running the Harbeth SHL5+ in it, when I happened upon a pair of Super Alnico Monitor XRS - let's put it this way, the Harbeths are world-class speakers but they got sold and I never looked back. Once you experience the speed and clarity of an Omega single driver design, it's very difficult to go back.  Everything else tends to sound syrupy and slow. 

Now, what I will warn you against, is the flip side of that equation - when you're going from a speaker that has a much larger, fuller presentation, to something like Omegas, at first your brain might think you're "missing" something - that it sounds lean.  Give yourself time to adjust to it, of course.  I was taken from the first second I heard them because of the pinpoint detail, but at first I also was conscious of feeling like I was missing some weight and heft to the sound.  That quickly faded and I was left in audio nirvana.

In my room, what I've figured out is that keeping the Omegas relatively close to the front wall - 2-3 feet or so - helps with bass reinforcement.  I am probably trading off some imaging/soundstage but for me it's worth it.  And it's not like in a room this size I have all that much choice!

I've also discovered through much experimentation that height plays a big role in how I perceive these Omegas.  Even adjusting their height by an inch or so made a huge difference in bass and the imaging.  This may not be true for everyone, but for me, in my listening position, in my room, it's been crucial.   I'm not sure if with the Super 8 XRS you have the ability to change the angle/tilt, but it might be worth keeping in mind as a possible tweak as you're setting things up.

And finally, I went a long time without a sub, but recently added an REL T/5i just for fun.  It's neat, especially on recordings where there is meaningful sub bass energy, but I could totally live without it - and did, for a long time!

Good luck with it!  Keep us updated!


SuperXRSSeattle

Re: Bought my first Omegas-Super 8 XRS
« Reply #4 on: 21 Jan 2021, 04:14 am »
All the advice above sure rings true.

I've got a pair of 8" towers in a bigger room but one place I like them best, for this space is, wait for it,... in the corners facing the middle of the room. Backed right against the corner like some sort of K horn fantasy. Mine are bottom ported (Hoyt Bedford) ferrite driver. I set them on sorbothane due to the bare and spongy floor. Works great.

Anyway, for sure plan on 200-300 hours to get those to speakers to settle in. You will definately notice it so hold on while you put the hours on 'em. Play 'em loud. I just ordered another pair of Omega's so will be doing the same, again.
 



SuperXRSSeattle

Re: Bought my first Omegas-Super 8 XRS
« Reply #5 on: 21 Jan 2021, 04:27 am »
They will be driven by a Decware ZMA.

Thanks
Dave

Good idea to throw some power at them, lettum' have it turned up. Cheaper to break them in with a solid state amp, though.
« Last Edit: 21 Jan 2021, 06:18 am by SuperXRSSeattle »

Dako

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Re: Bought my first Omegas-Super 8 XRS
« Reply #6 on: 23 Jan 2021, 01:02 am »
Hey everyone, sorry for the hiatus. Been kinda hectic.

SET MAN
Thanks for the positive reinforcement on my lousy room size. Unfortunately am stuck with it until I can convince my wife to downsize and I can hopefully build a more appropriate sized room. I do listen to and enjoy female vocals so these should fit the bill. Glad to hear you are happy with them in your room. I really want to avoid a sub in my small room if I can.

Zmaggio
    Great info, thanks. Mine will be sitting on maple blocks on top of brass footers so hopefully the height helps them. I do agree with your assessment that I will miss the fuller presentation. The Legacy,s have a lot of heft to them and with the amount of room treatments I have, I believe I have them dialed in pretty well but I will miss that in your face sound. I am sure the detail will more than make up for what I am missing. Louis is putting a port in the bottom of the speakers to help with the bass. My buddy has Omegas and I am already aware of their detail.

SuperXRSSEattle
    Thanks for your words of wisdom. I for sure am not looking forward to the break in. Luckily I work from home and can run the system several hours a day to speed up the break in. This is my first pair of speakers I have ever bought new, so break in is something new to me. Hopefully my patience doesn’t wear thin. :D

NoDisco

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Re: Bought my first Omegas-Super 8 XRS
« Reply #7 on: 23 Jan 2021, 04:35 am »
Sams plus super tweeters plus 2 tiny rel subs for me. Took me a long time to dial it in, but it smacks! Heard 15k speakers that could not hold a candle. Worth the work. I’m at the end of my journey for the most part.