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No need to spell it out. Unlike you, I know exactly where you are coming from and I understand why you are confused. Which is why I've gone to great lengths to explain myself and have tried to clear up these confusions. You, on the other hand, have clearly made no effort whatsoever to understand where I'm coming from. You simply want to argue and play "gotcha". That you persist like this is idiotic and proves no point. My first post was a co-mingled joint post, addressed to both OP and jjs49. I have clearly explained this already. You are correct...my post was confusing in that it appeared I was only responding to jjs49. But I have since cleared that up and explained myself. Several times. Yet you still persist. Why?My first post included a SS rec because OP requested it. I have clearly explained this already.And yes my other 2 recs are indeed "tubed MC phono stages". I have clearly explained this already. If you disagree with my terminology, fine. No need to carry on like an asshole.And once again you are factually incorrect. I never mentioned a unit that was SUT + solid state MM section. My original post clearly sates one MC phono stage that is "all SS" . Only a low IQ can interpret it as you have. Go back and read it.And you still don't get it...I originally disagreed with jjss because I did not KNOW at the time he was referring to all tubed units. I only found that out after he replied to me. I've said this at least 3x now and you still don't get it!! Go back and READ. I know it's hard for you, but do your best to understand. I think most average intelligence people understand me perfectly. If you are struggling to understand all this, and you clearly are, then yes your intelligence is low. And for you to persist like this just makes you a confrontational and argumentative jerk.And you still have added nothing helpful to the discussion. Just negative energy. Go troll elsewhere.
So nice of you to judge my IQ and calling me names. Very classy. And I'm the one who is a jerk... Your negative energy started with calling a disagreement snarky to two people who called you out on your wording. I guess you can never be wrong, eh? One of those types... What a mess.It's OK though. Carry on. Stay classy, Sunnydaze.
This thread is now officially useless to the op.
I have been away a little and didn't see the little verbal tête-à-tête here. Chill dudes. I generally agree that deploying tubes can be noisy. Well implemented design will make it quieter but it is the nature of tubes. What good tubes has is that je ne sais quoi that some call tube bloom. It can make vocals and instrument sound "phat" in the most pleasing way. I kind of use the old Dolby noise reduction on tapes for analogy. Tubes have no noise reduction. It will amplify everything including noise in the recording but the music is more live. You have to pick your own poison. Nothing is perfect. Everything is a give and take. I use Straingauge (solid state) for one kind of music and Aesthetix Io (all tubes -- PS, MM, MC, everything) for another. They recreate music differently. Yes, Io is noisier (even after spending mucho time and expense on tube rolling) but it makes voices and individual instruments sing. If you hear that tonal elixir, you don't want to give it up even with the wart -- higher noise floor. BTW we are talking little noise not a lot. But some can't stand that noisy background and I get that. Straingauge, on the other hand, is superb in large orchestral music where macrodynamics require quiet floor. I don't know what you can get at this price range. SUT is a good choice for MC but a good transformer can bust your budget by itself. Tube MM + SUT (internal or external) may be the best compromise at this budget. LOMC has it's own allure but you do want that final gain to be quiet. To actively boost that last 10 - 20 dB for LOMC, the whole design has to be so quiet that it probably can't be done with necessary design and implementation compromises at this budget. Good luck and welcome to the LOMC world.
