NX-Treme Build

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Bioman

NX-Treme Build
« on: 4 Apr 2020, 05:16 pm »
As my NX-Treme flat-pack should be shipping in the next week or so I looked for a build thread but could not find one in the sticky on builds.  As the sides appeared to be angled, and clamping/aligning angled joints for glue-up can be tricky I wanted to see how this was accomplished.

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Re: NX-Treme Build
« Reply #1 on: 4 Apr 2020, 05:23 pm »
As my NX-Treme flat-pack should be shipping in the next week or so I looked for a build thread but could not find one in the sticky on builds.  As the sides appeared to be angled, and clamping/aligning angled joints for glue-up can be tricky I wanted to see how this was accomplished.

I've used these before  www.rockler.com/blokkz-universal-clamping-blocks-pair   The work pretty well and on any angle.

Mike

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« Reply #2 on: 4 Apr 2020, 07:17 pm »
I'll gladly spend some time on the phone with you  if needed,  I just helped someone  do theirs   and   he had no issues.
Basically  we reommend  building them on their side ( full wing  down first)  Recommend using  Titebond  Extend so you have some extra working time.

Do some dry runs first to get  a feel for how you  are going to  assemble them.
I recommend:

Lay the first  wing  down, dado's up.
Add a nice bead of glue to  each  dado in the wing except for the very top  brace.
Put a brace in each  Dado.
 Apply liberal amount of glue to the  10 degree rabbet and each dado on  rear of wing
Fit baffle  over front edge of wing on bench,  easiest if overhanging the bench slightly.  You can use a few small 6.5" clamps  from  roundover of  woofer cutouts  to outer face of wing to hold it in position.  Make sure all the braces fit into the dado's on rear of baffle.  There maybe  a bit of clearence on some when aligned with rear edge...  have to leave some wiggle room due to material  expansion/contraction  in different  climates.
Add glue  to remaining 10 degree rabbet on baffle (facing up at you).  Add glue to  all dado's on  open  wing except very top    .
positon 2nd wing over  exposed  bracing until it drops into position..
Now, quickly install the 6 dowels in bottom of wings and (Without Glue)  attach the base (fits over dowels) and then secure with  6  screws..

Stand the  speaker up and   begin clamping it all up.

We used  a stack of  6.5" clamps  from inside  driver cutouts to outer edge of wing to keep the wings  up tight against side of baffle.   We cut a piece of scrap  wood just wide enough  to reach across the rear of the cabinet, so it just  catches the inside edge of both wings and clamped  from there to  front baffle to  pull the wings  forward into the baffle.  We did this on the  upper  M165 section and the lower M165 section.
We also added a couple of band clamps around the  upper and lower  sections.

Using the base  as  a jig keeps the  wings  aligned  and makes  it much easier.  After the cabinet  sets up in clamps, you can remove the base and  reinstall with glue and screws if desired. The top  brace ( wedge with  single cutout,, is easy to  fit after initial glue up.

You  do not need to go crazy with  the glue, you  don't want it all  squeezing out and  running  all over the place.
It is a little tricky but as mentioned,  doing  some  dry runs  really helps simplify the  actual glue up process.

I can't emphasize enough,  go easy on the glue.  Too much glue is only going to cause you grief,  it will cause a ton of swelling and making  fitting/adjusting  etc   really touigh.

jay

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Re: NX-Treme Build
« Reply #3 on: 5 Apr 2020, 01:23 am »
Mon Captain:
Are there any waste area's in your CNC run that could be used to create useful 110 degree clamping cauls?
Shawn

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Re: NX-Treme Build
« Reply #4 on: 5 Apr 2020, 10:52 am »
Great start Jay.  I'll give a shout if I get confused.

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Re: NX-Treme Build
« Reply #5 on: 5 Apr 2020, 05:04 pm »
If you can post some pics as you go, I think that would be great to see for all who is considering this model.

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« Reply #6 on: 5 Apr 2020, 05:09 pm »
I just helped someone do theirs and he had no issues.

Maybe they can share some photos of their NX-Treme build with us.

Now, quickly install the 6 dowels in bottom of wings and (Without Glue)  attach the base (fits over dowels) and then secure with  6  screws..

Stand the  speaker up and   begin clamping it all up.

Is there any disadvantage to leaving the speaker on its side?

Using the base  as  a jig keeps the  wings  aligned  and makes  it much easier.  After the cabinet  sets up in clamps, you can remove the base and  reinstall with glue and screws if desired.

Is there any disadvantage in gluing the base when first screwing it onto the speaker while on its side?

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Re: NX-Treme Build
« Reply #7 on: 5 Apr 2020, 05:17 pm »
Yes I just did a search for NX-Treme build threads and there does not seem to be any. Not much for NX-Otica either but I'm sure the assembly procedures are almost identical.

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Re: NX-Treme Build
« Reply #8 on: 6 Apr 2020, 05:12 am »
A video describing build process, would be much easier for everyone to follow

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Re: NX-Treme Build
« Reply #9 on: 6 Apr 2020, 04:55 pm »
I've used these before  www.rockler.com/blokkz-universal-clamping-blocks-pair   The work pretty well and on any angle.

Mike

Man, I could've used these on past projects.  Thanks for sharing!

Captainhemo

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« Reply #10 on: 6 Apr 2020, 05:24 pm »
Maybe they can share some photos of their NX-Treme build with us.

Is there any disadvantage to leaving the speaker on its side?

Is there any disadvantage in gluing the base when first screwing it onto the speaker while on its side?

He doesn't post here a lot,  mostly over on Canuck Audio I think.  Maybe he will chime in....

We like to stand them up.. thaisway there is no chance of  having the side panels "cocked".. when you  stand them up both  wings will  automatically  sit down flat on the base. On top of that,  it can be dificult to wrap  band clamps around the cabinet  when it is lying down and running   a clamp front  to back  on either  side in a  few places is almot impossible  with it lying down.

If you  want to add glue to the base  during assembly,  go for it ... it  just  takes more  time.  I  like to get it standing up  asap.  Also,   some  will want to  paint/finish the bases  different than the rest of the cabinet.. easy to do  if you can remove it.

jay

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Re: NX-Treme Build
« Reply #11 on: 6 Apr 2020, 05:31 pm »
Mon Captain:
Are there any waste area's in your CNC run that could be used to create useful 110 degree clamping cauls?
Shawn

Not a lot and definately not on these current kits guys are waiting for, just  cut  8 sheets of wings.  Possibly  something  we   can look at  down the road.


A video describing build process, would be much easier for everyone to follow

If  we do any  additional pairs  in house, we'll think about that  although  we're not  video savy LOL
The  best thing   to do is to  dry fit them a few  times and get  the feel for how they go together,  it's not that  hard  but  we do recommend  having  a couple people   present , much  easier with 2

jay

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Re: NX-Treme Build
« Reply #12 on: 7 Apr 2020, 06:36 pm »
Here’s are some pics I took during my build. Can’t really add anymore than what Jay has already said. Just practice assembling dry. Then when doing final assembly with glue; do it in one continuous motion with no pausing if you’re using regular glue like I did. It’s not that hard and I did it by myself lifting and all.
















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Captainhemo

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« Reply #13 on: 7 Apr 2020, 06:44 pm »
Thanks for chiming in Edward,  appreciate   it .
 Even though you  did it on your own,  I'd still recommend people try to have a helper  standing by, an extra set of hands  never hurts  :)

Love the results man,   great  work   :thumb:
I think I know what the next  question will be in this thread...... and it will likely be directed  at  you

jay

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Re: NX-Treme Build
« Reply #14 on: 7 Apr 2020, 07:15 pm »
Man, I could've used these on past projects.  Thanks for sharing!

You're welcome. I have 4 pair of them, I've found them that useful.

Mike

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Re: NX-Treme Build
« Reply #15 on: 7 Apr 2020, 07:17 pm »
Here’s are some pics I took during my build. Can’t really add anymore than what Jay has already said. Just practice assembling dry. Then when doing final assembly with glue; do it in one continuous motion with no pausing if you’re using regular glue like I did. It’s not that hard and I did it by myself lifting and all.
















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Nice, and I see you have assumed the proper position  :thumb:

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Re: NX-Treme Build
« Reply #16 on: 7 Apr 2020, 08:11 pm »
e_bis80

Those are Awesome! Thanks for sharing. :thumb: Looks like a pretty ease assembly.

How tall are they? And how much do they weight? I haven't seen that info listed anywhere.

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Re: NX-Treme Build
« Reply #17 on: 7 Apr 2020, 08:26 pm »
Can’t say how much they weigh. Probably over 100 lbs each after drivers as I think each cab is round 80 on their own. For height they are right at 7’ add two more inches if you’re going to use the spikes provided.

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Re: NX-Treme Build
« Reply #18 on: 7 Apr 2020, 08:29 pm »
Edit: Deleted I will start a new thread.

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« Reply #19 on: 7 Apr 2020, 08:31 pm »
Seven feet and 100 lbs. Thanks. Not as heavy as I expected.