Freezing and pixellating with burned DVD's

mashthepedal · « **on:** 13 Feb 2005, 04:47 am »

I am burning DVD's using DVD Shrink and I am having a lot of problem with freezing and pixellating. I am trying to trouble shoot, I have used several types of blank media, it has happened on 2 different players, I have downloaded the latest versions of Shrink and Nero. I am now having Sony look at my burner though it's brand new, the DRU 710 and suspect it may not be the problem. Is there any truth to the myth that a good quality DVD transport ( like the Denon 2910 ) will have more trouble playing burned discs than a really cheap player? Any help would be appreciated.

bubba966 · « **Reply #1 on:** 13 Feb 2005, 05:05 am »

You have something else to try playing them on? I've heard that Denon's aren't always happy with burned discs.

birdwizard · « **Reply #2 on:** 13 Feb 2005, 05:15 am »

Try 1click dvd copy, it works very well for me so far.

Tabascosauce · « **Reply #3 on:** 13 Feb 2005, 01:12 pm »

I second that for 1click dvd. It's well worth purchasing imho.

mcgsxr · « **Reply #4 on:** 14 Feb 2005, 12:21 am »

I use DVD XCopy both Platinum, and Basic Edition - these burned DVD's have played in all the budget DVD players that I have, and those of my friends - I don't have any close friends that have invested much in DVD players, so I cannot comment on how the better ones fare with burned discs.

Wayne1 · « **Reply #5 on:** 14 Feb 2005, 02:45 pm »

How much compression are you using with DVDShrink?

Pixelation can be caused by lots of compression.

Trying to fit all the goodies from a dual-layer disc onto a single layer DVD R will usually mean something has to give. In most cases it is video quality.

I have tried out the demo version of 1click. If you just copy the movie and none of the extras, it will compress it between 20 and 30 percent. I notice a small loss of quality on my 57" RPTV. It looks fine on my son's 20" Symphonic DVD/TV combo. Plays fine. My daughter has a Sony DVP-NS500V feeding a small (14") monitor and no trouble with that.

I would suggest you try out some of the different demo versions of DVD copy software. You will get the best results using no compression and spreading the movie over two discs.

mashthepedal · « **Reply #6 on:** 14 Feb 2005, 02:51 pm »

Thanks for all the input. I generally don't have to compress too much which is the beauty of DVD Shrink. I will try them in another player, in the meantime is there anyone out there with a 2910, any luck with burned discs? Thanks again.

Levi · « **Reply #7 on:** 14 Feb 2005, 03:01 pm »

It also depends on the movie that you are copying

. Try to copy ToyStory2.

Levi

randytsuch · « **Reply #8 on:** 15 Feb 2005, 01:09 am »

When I had trouble with freezing and pixilation, it was because of media. For important things, I try to use stuff that is made in Japan, but I have even had trouble with made in Japan Maxells (which is supposed to be good stuff), so you never know.
The made in Japan Fuji -R's are TY media, which I have never had a problem with.
You need to actually check the media code to see where it comes from, because there are not that many factories, so a few companies actually make all the different kinds. I have a utility for this, but it is at home, and I don't remember the name.

For more info, this is a good resource
http://www.videohelp.com/

Randy

Tr3vWh0r3 · « **Reply #9 on:** 15 Feb 2005, 01:17 am »

I've had that problem when im running certain things on the computer. Say I get a message on MSN. It would cause a problem at the point in the movie that was being burned at the time.. Close everything you are running if you can.

mca · « **Reply #10 on:** 15 Feb 2005, 05:26 am »

I use DVD Shrink and have a Denon 2900. The movies skip maybe one or two times per disk, but not bad enough to cause any real problems. This is with a new Pioneer burner. With the stock burner that was in my Sony PC I could barely get a disk to play on the Denon.

mashthepedal · « **Reply #11 on:** 15 Feb 2005, 05:51 am »

Thanks again for your help. I have tried a number of different media, I wonder whether burning at 2x say is safer than 8x, i.e. more accurate transfer of data. My burner is a Sony and am having Sony Canada check it out now, I'm praying they'll tell me it's defective. I have heard that it's not a good idea to use jewel cases for DVD's, is this more theory than real world. Kevin

Davey · « **Reply #12 on:** 15 Feb 2005, 06:30 am »

I have a Denon 2910 and it plays the Memorex 4X DVD-R's with no problem. I sometimes compress quite a bit with DVDShrink and sometimes not. It doesn't seem to make a difference. I use a D18A Sony drive, but I'm never in a hurry so I burn at 2X.

Cheers,

Davey.

mashthepedal · « **Reply #13 on:** 15 Feb 2005, 06:30 pm »

I have tried to play the discs on an entry level Toshiba progressive scan player and they play fine. Is my option then to sacrifice video and audio quality for a player that will play burned discs, is this the basic decision. Is burning at 2x more likely to give a good result, if so do I need to buy media that specifically burn at 2x or can I control the burn rate with DVD Shrink and use the good quality media ( Fuji ) I have now. Thanks, Kevin

jonwb · « **Reply #14 on:** 15 Feb 2005, 06:53 pm »

I have had some troubles w/ backup copies here and there. I've recently started doing all my backups at 2x speed. So far I have had good luck, although I haven't done it enough to say conclusively.

FWIW, you can write at 2x w/ (basically) any speed media. Its in one of the boxes that you can pick through just prior to actually burning the disk w/ DVD Shrink. DVD Shrink uses Nero, so it just passes that command along. The slightly longer burn time going to 2x is inconsequential for me, if I can count on better backups.

bubba966 · « **Reply #15 on:** 15 Feb 2005, 07:25 pm »

Quote from: mashthepedal

I have tried to play the discs on an entry level Toshiba progressive scan player and they play fine. Is my option then to sacrifice video and audio quality for a player that will play burned discs, is this the basic decision.

Well if the Toshiba plays it fine, but the Denon doesn't then the problem is with your Denon.

If you want to replace the Denon with something that plays the discs and doesn't sacrifice quality look into a Pioneer Elite DV-59AVi. That'll play them better than the Toshiba will, and you won't be stepping down in quality from your 2910.

Rob Babcock has had the best luck with Pioneer decks when playing DVD-R's or CD-R's, but couldn't get his Denon'd to play 'em. And my Pioneer DV-AX10 has played everything I've thrown at it, and it's faaar from a cheap player.

So you don't need a cheap DVD player to played burned DVD's (in fact most cheap one's don't play burned discs well or at all), you just need to pick a brand that's better at playing DVD-R's than Denon is.

mashthepedal · « **Reply #16 on:** 15 Feb 2005, 08:40 pm »

Thanks Bubba. I'm going to take my discs into a store that sells the player and try them out. It has really come down in price too, can now get it for less than $1000 USD. Kevin

bubba966 · « **Reply #17 on:** 15 Feb 2005, 08:56 pm »

That's the best thing to do. Try it out for yourself with your discs. I'll bet that it'll play 'em just fine.

And yeah, they can be had a bit cheaper now than when they were first released. Best price I've seen on them was just under $900.

mashthepedal · « **Reply #18 on:** 17 Feb 2005, 10:04 pm »

Thanks again Bubba. As predicted the Pioneer plays them just fine. Man was this frustrating. I didn't think that a good quality DVD player that advertises playing DVD-R would be the source of the problem and I changed everything else first. Live and learn, cheers Kevin